From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 13:02:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Matrix ticket seeks date So, being a graduating senior, I just picked up a couple of tickets to The Matrix: Reloaded on Wednesday night. I am now looking for someone to give my second ticket to, in exchange for accompanying me. This is not a joke. This is not a left-myself-logged-in post. Qualifying factors: * Must be female * Must be a CMU undergrad student (freshman through 5th year senior is fine), although I might waive this requirement if you can make a really good case If you're interested, please submit by email to kenn@cmu.edu the following items: * A recent (last 2 years) picture of yourself, or a link to same * An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words describing yourself (please do not include information I can retrieve with finger(1) - name, major, or class standing, in particular) * An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words telling me why I should pick you over any other applicant If you have a personal website or webjournal, please include a link to it in your submission. Feel free to include any other information or links you wish, but make sure that the items listed above are clearly marked, and keep in mind that I may not go through such material, especially if it is voluminous. The deadline for submissions is Sunday, May 11 at 23:59:59 (coincidentally, the same time as my 15-498 take-home exam is due). The winner will be notified by email by Monday, May 12 at 23:59:59. If I receive no acceptable applications by that time, my second ticket will be for sale for $9.50 (the same price I paid for it), but I hope I don't have to do that. I reserve the right not to pick a winner even if I do receive applications. If you want to know about me, please refer to for information, and for my webjournal. Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) (* Webpage: http://ragnar.nilmop.com/kenn/default.html *) From rrankin@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 14:32:28 -0400 From: Rees Rankin Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date hahahha you are a dateless loser ! as if any chicks would go out with you just to see a GUY flick ! hahahhaha. maybe you should try asking some men in the ECE department out instead ! get this shit off the forum and go give rosy palms your typical visit. --On Thursday, May 08, 2003 1:02 PM -0400 Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > So, being a graduating senior, I just picked up a couple of tickets to The > Matrix: Reloaded on Wednesday night. I am now looking for someone to give > my second ticket to, in exchange for accompanying me. This is not a joke. > This is not a left-myself-logged-in post. > > Qualifying factors: > > * Must be female > > * Must be a CMU undergrad student (freshman through 5th year senior is > fine), although I might waive this requirement if you can make a really > good case > > If you're interested, please submit by email to kenn@cmu.edu the following > items: > > * A recent (last 2 years) picture of yourself, or a link to same > > * An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words describing > yourself (please do not include information I can retrieve with > finger(1) - name, major, or class standing, in particular) > > * An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words telling me why I > should pick you over any other applicant > > If you have a personal website or webjournal, please include a link to it > in your submission. Feel free to include any other information or links > you wish, but make sure that the items listed above are clearly marked, > and keep in mind that I may not go through such material, especially if it > is voluminous. > > The deadline for submissions is Sunday, May 11 at 23:59:59 > (coincidentally, the same time as my 15-498 take-home exam is due). The > winner will be notified by email by Monday, May 12 at 23:59:59. If I > receive no acceptable applications by that time, my second ticket will be > for sale for $9.50 (the same price I paid for it), but I hope I don't have > to do that. I reserve the right not to pick a winner even if I do receive > applications. > > If you want to know about me, please refer to > for information, and > for my webjournal. > > Kenn > -- > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" > \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| > #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; > print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn > #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > (* Webpage: http://ragnar.nilmop.com/kenn/default.html *) From dnewsome@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 14:42:44 -0400 From: David Newsome Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Matrix Tickets !!!! Kenn, ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you're interested, please submit by email to kenn@cmu.edu the following items: * A recent (last 2 years) picture of yourself, or a link to same * An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words describing yourself (please do not include information I can retrieve with finger(1) - name, major, or class standing, in particular) * An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words telling me why I should pick you over any other applicant If you have a personal website or webjournal, please include a link to it in your submission. Feel free to include any other information or links you wish, but make sure that the items listed above are clearly marked, and keep in mind that I may not go through such material, especially if it is voluminous. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- My observation ---- Of all the weird crap I've seen on Misc Market, this by far tops them. What lame-ass posts a request and an essay requirement for a date? You make me sick, and I am morally offended. Go back to the cave you crawled from, lock yourself in, and don't bother real people who do work ever again. That inflatable doll is calling - do you hear it? From ktung@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 14:45:16 -0400 From: Ka-Loon Tung Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: RE: Matrix ticket seeks date No no no...go ask someone in the CS dept -----Original Message----- From: Rees Rankin [mailto:rrankin@andrew.cmu.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date hahahha you are a dateless loser ! as if any chicks would go out with you just to see a GUY flick ! hahahhaha. maybe you should try asking some men in the ECE department out instead ! get this shit off the forum and go give rosy palms your typical visit. --On Thursday, May 08, 2003 1:02 PM -0400 Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > So, being a graduating senior, I just picked up a couple of tickets to The > Matrix: Reloaded on Wednesday night. I am now looking for someone to give > my second ticket to, in exchange for accompanying me. This is not a joke. > This is not a left-myself-logged-in post. > > Qualifying factors: > > * Must be female > > * Must be a CMU undergrad student (freshman through 5th year senior is > fine), although I might waive this requirement if you can make a really > good case > > If you're interested, please submit by email to kenn@cmu.edu the following > items: > > * A recent (last 2 years) picture of yourself, or a link to same > > * An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words describing > yourself (please do not include information I can retrieve with > finger(1) - name, major, or class standing, in particular) > > * An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words telling me why I > should pick you over any other applicant > > If you have a personal website or webjournal, please include a link to it > in your submission. Feel free to include any other information or links > you wish, but make sure that the items listed above are clearly marked, > and keep in mind that I may not go through such material, especially if it > is voluminous. > > The deadline for submissions is Sunday, May 11 at 23:59:59 > (coincidentally, the same time as my 15-498 take-home exam is due). The > winner will be notified by email by Monday, May 12 at 23:59:59. If I > receive no acceptable applications by that time, my second ticket will be > for sale for $9.50 (the same price I paid for it), but I hope I don't have > to do that. I reserve the right not to pick a winner even if I do receive > applications. > > If you want to know about me, please refer to > for information, and > for my webjournal. > > Kenn > -- > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" > \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| > #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; > print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn > #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > (* Webpage: http://ragnar.nilmop.com/kenn/default.html *) From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 15:54:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date On Thu, 08 May 2003 14:32:28 -0400, Rees Rankin wrote: > hahahha you are a dateless loser ! as if any chicks would go out with > you just to see a GUY flick ! I find it ridiculous for you to buy into cultural stereotyping to such an extent as to assume no woman would be interested in seeing The Matrix: Reloaded with me. Sure, it may be a statistical fact that men are more interested in the movie than woman are, but that hardly implies your claim. And no, this doesn't mean I'm a feminist, it just means you're a jackass, and it's showing. > hahahhaha. maybe you should try asking some men in the ECE department > out instead ! They're all yours, Rees. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just not what I prefer. > get this shit off the forum and go give rosy palms your typical visit. Right, because we all know that Rees Pankin has never touched itself. (Note: nothing in Rees' post positively identifies it as a male or female, and so even though Rees is a jackass, generally considered a gender-linked trait in our society, I am forced to use gender-neutral language to refer to it.) On Thu, 08 May 2003 14:42:44 -0400, David Newsome wrote: > Kenn, > > > My observation ---- > > Of all the weird crap I've seen on Misc Market, this by far tops them. > What lame-ass posts a request and an essay requirement for a date? You > make me sick, and I am morally offended. > > Go back to the cave you crawled from, lock yourself in, and don't bother > real people who do work ever again. > > That inflatable doll is calling - do you hear it? I'm going to cautiously assume this is a deliberate troll, because it seems far too silly to be a serious post. If so, congratulations - you almost fooled me. If not, well, you still managed to induce a good laugh or two. On Thu, 8 May 2003 14:45:16 -0400, Ka-Loon Tung wrote: > No no no...go ask someone in the CS dept The contest is open to all majors, and I do not expect major to be a significant factor in the selection, should I receive any submissions. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- My website is down, use this mirror (some links may not work): for the page about me. for my webjournal. Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From bassett@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 16:00:32 -0400 From: Dorothy E. Bassett Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: RE: Matrix ticket seeks date OK. Time to start my shameless promotion of Latin Dance Classes. It's *one* way of getting to meet people, and, unlike the Matrix date, they *have* to see you again even if things don't work out so well. There tend to be more girls interested in this stuff than guys, and let's face it - if you're a guy and you can dance well, your social life will have a better shot than if you can't. (Guys who can dance are looked upon as chivalrous, romantic, etc., etc., etc. - you really can't lose.) You could dance in clubs (if you knew how) and meet more girls that way, and you could even go into latin dance competitions, get famous, meet more girls, and get prize money. The details: Beginners' Latin Dance Classes taught by international championship latin dancers Terry & Rozana Sweeney on Monday nights from 8:00 to 9:00pm. New group classes begin every six weeks. The cost per person for 6 group classes is $45.00 You don't need a partner - you'll be dancing with *all* the girls in the class anyway because they rotate partners. Their studio is on the South Side, and is located in the Birmingham Gallery Building at 20 South 14th Street, one block down from the Beehive Coffee Shop on Carson. So, sign up. Call Rozana at 412-821-2267. Dorothy (who is going to go see Matrix and XMen2 just because she likes that kind of thing) --On Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:45 PM -0400 Ka-Loon Tung wrote: > No no no...go ask someone in the CS dept > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rees Rankin [mailto:rrankin@andrew.cmu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:32 PM > Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date > > hahahha you are a dateless loser ! as if any chicks would go out with > you > just to see a GUY flick ! hahahhaha. maybe you should try asking > some > men in the ECE department out instead ! > > > get this shit off the forum and go give rosy palms your typical visit. > > > > > > --On Thursday, May 08, 2003 1:02 PM -0400 Kenn Brooks Hamm > wrote: > >> So, being a graduating senior, I just picked up a couple of tickets to > The >> Matrix: Reloaded on Wednesday night. I am now looking for someone to > give >> my second ticket to, in exchange for accompanying me. This is not a > joke. >> This is not a left-myself-logged-in post. >> >> Qualifying factors: >> >> * Must be female >> >> * Must be a CMU undergrad student (freshman through 5th year senior is >> fine), although I might waive this requirement if you can make a > really >> good case >> >> If you're interested, please submit by email to kenn@cmu.edu the > following >> items: >> >> * A recent (last 2 years) picture of yourself, or a link to same >> >> * An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words describing >> yourself (please do not include information I can retrieve with >> finger(1) - name, major, or class standing, in particular) >> >> * An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words telling me why > I >> should pick you over any other applicant >> >> If you have a personal website or webjournal, please include a link to > it >> in your submission. Feel free to include any other information or > links >> you wish, but make sure that the items listed above are clearly > marked, >> and keep in mind that I may not go through such material, especially > if it >> is voluminous. >> >> The deadline for submissions is Sunday, May 11 at 23:59:59 >> (coincidentally, the same time as my 15-498 take-home exam is due). > The >> winner will be notified by email by Monday, May 12 at 23:59:59. If I >> receive no acceptable applications by that time, my second ticket will > be >> for sale for $9.50 (the same price I paid for it), but I hope I don't > have >> to do that. I reserve the right not to pick a winner even if I do > receive >> applications. >> >> If you want to know about me, please refer to >> for information, and >> for my webjournal. >> >> Kenn >> -- >> val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: > [\"\\\" >> \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| >> #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; >> print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn >> #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) >> >> (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. > *) >> (* Webpage: http://ragnar.nilmop.com/kenn/default.html *) > > > > From jmcdermo@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 16:05:50 -0400 From: Joe McDermott Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date Hands down the funniest thread of posts I've seen on misc.market all year. Especially considering how much of it was unintentionally funny. Wow. Just wow. --On Thursday, May 08, 2003 3:54 PM -0400 Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > On Thu, 08 May 2003 14:32:28 -0400, Rees Rankin > wrote: > >> hahahha you are a dateless loser ! as if any chicks would go out with >> you just to see a GUY flick ! > > I find it ridiculous for you to buy into cultural stereotyping to such an > extent as to assume no woman would be interested in seeing The Matrix: > Reloaded with me. Sure, it may be a statistical fact that men are more > interested in the movie than woman are, but that hardly implies your > claim. > > And no, this doesn't mean I'm a feminist, it just means you're a jackass, > and it's showing. > >> hahahhaha. maybe you should try asking some men in the ECE department >> out instead ! > > They're all yours, Rees. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's > just not what I prefer. > >> get this shit off the forum and go give rosy palms your typical visit. > > Right, because we all know that Rees Pankin has never touched itself. > (Note: nothing in Rees' post positively identifies it as a male or female, > and so even though Rees is a jackass, generally considered a gender-linked > trait in our society, I am forced to use gender-neutral language to refer > to it.) > > On Thu, 08 May 2003 14:42:44 -0400, David Newsome > wrote: > >> Kenn, >> > >> >> My observation ---- >> >> Of all the weird crap I've seen on Misc Market, this by far tops them. >> What lame-ass posts a request and an essay requirement for a date? You >> make me sick, and I am morally offended. >> >> Go back to the cave you crawled from, lock yourself in, and don't bother >> real people who do work ever again. >> >> That inflatable doll is calling - do you hear it? > > I'm going to cautiously assume this is a deliberate troll, because it > seems far too silly to be a serious post. If so, congratulations - you > almost fooled me. If not, well, you still managed to induce a good laugh > or two. > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 14:45:16 -0400, Ka-Loon Tung > wrote: > >> No no no...go ask someone in the CS dept > > The contest is open to all majors, and I do not expect major to be a > significant factor in the selection, should I receive any submissions. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > My website is down, use this mirror (some links may not work): > > for the page about me. > for my webjournal. > > Kenn > -- > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" > \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| > #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; > print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn > #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From jdm3@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 16:09:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Jesse D Mendelsohn Reply-To: JMendelsohn@alumni.cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date You mean all you have to do to get some on this campus is get a ticket to a sci-fi flick? My god! I've wasted so much time thinking alcohol was the way to go. On Thu, 8 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > On Thu, 08 May 2003 14:32:28 -0400, Rees Rankin > wrote: > > > hahahha you are a dateless loser ! as if any chicks would go out with > > you just to see a GUY flick ! > > I find it ridiculous for you to buy into cultural stereotyping to such an > extent as to assume no woman would be interested in seeing The Matrix: > Reloaded with me. Sure, it may be a statistical fact that men are more > interested in the movie than woman are, but that hardly implies your > claim. > > And no, this doesn't mean I'm a feminist, it just means you're a jackass, > and it's showing. > > > hahahhaha. maybe you should try asking some men in the ECE department > > out instead ! > > They're all yours, Rees. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's > just not what I prefer. > > > get this shit off the forum and go give rosy palms your typical visit. > > Right, because we all know that Rees Pankin has never touched itself. > (Note: nothing in Rees' post positively identifies it as a male or female, > and so even though Rees is a jackass, generally considered a gender-linked > trait in our society, I am forced to use gender-neutral language to refer > to it.) > > On Thu, 08 May 2003 14:42:44 -0400, David Newsome > wrote: > > > Kenn, > > > > > > > My observation ---- > > > > Of all the weird crap I've seen on Misc Market, this by far tops them. > > What lame-ass posts a request and an essay requirement for a date? You > > make me sick, and I am morally offended. > > > > Go back to the cave you crawled from, lock yourself in, and don't bother > > real people who do work ever again. > > > > That inflatable doll is calling - do you hear it? > > I'm going to cautiously assume this is a deliberate troll, because it > seems far too silly to be a serious post. If so, congratulations - you > almost fooled me. If not, well, you still managed to induce a good laugh > or two. > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 14:45:16 -0400, Ka-Loon Tung > wrote: > > > No no no...go ask someone in the CS dept > > The contest is open to all majors, and I do not expect major to be a > significant factor in the selection, should I receive any submissions. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > My website is down, use this mirror (some links may not work): > > for the page about me. > for my webjournal. > > Kenn > -- > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] > (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex > plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( > List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > From lgood@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 16:20:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Leslie Lauren Good Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] What *I* find ridiculous, dear Kenn, is that you put a collection of DEAD LINKS on your initial post. And you call yourself a CS major? Pu-lease. You've broken the unwritten rules of respectable stalkee-ism. Leslie >> I find it ridiculous for you to buy into cultural stereotyping to such >> an >> extent as to assume no woman would be interested in seeing The Matrix: >> Reloaded with me. Sure, it may be a statistical fact that men are more >> interested in the movie than woman are, but that hardly implies your >> claim. >> >> And no, this doesn't mean I'm a feminist, it just means you're a >> jackass, >> and it's showing. >> >> > hahahhaha. maybe you should try asking some men in the ECE department >> > out instead ! >> >> They're all yours, Rees. Not that there's anything wrong with that, >> it's >> just not what I prefer. >> >> > get this shit off the forum and go give rosy palms your typical visit. >> >> Right, because we all know that Rees Pankin has never touched itself. >> (Note: nothing in Rees' post positively identifies it as a male or >> female, >> and so even though Rees is a jackass, generally considered a >> gender-linked >> trait in our society, I am forced to use gender-neutral language to >> refer >> to it.) >> >> On Thu, 08 May 2003 14:42:44 -0400, David Newsome >> wrote: >> >> > Kenn, >> > >> >> > >> > My observation ---- >> > >> > Of all the weird crap I've seen on Misc Market, this by far tops them. >> > What lame-ass posts a request and an essay requirement for a date? >> You >> > make me sick, and I am morally offended. >> > >> > Go back to the cave you crawled from, lock yourself in, and don't >> bother >> > real people who do work ever again. >> > >> > That inflatable doll is calling - do you hear it? >> >> I'm going to cautiously assume this is a deliberate troll, because it >> seems far too silly to be a serious post. If so, congratulations - you >> almost fooled me. If not, well, you still managed to induce a good >> laugh >> or two. >> >> On Thu, 8 May 2003 14:45:16 -0400, Ka-Loon Tung >> wrote: >> >> > No no no...go ask someone in the CS dept >> >> The contest is open to all majors, and I do not expect major to be a >> significant factor in the selection, should I receive any submissions. >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> My website is down, use this mirror (some links may not work): >> >> for the page about me. >> for my webjournal. >> >> Kenn >> -- >> val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" >> \",K] >> (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str >> l) (ex >> plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" >> ",K] ( >> List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) >> >> (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) >> > From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 16:34:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date On Thu, 8 May 2003, Leslie Lauren Good wrote: > What *I* find ridiculous, dear Kenn, is that you put a collection of DEAD > LINKS on your initial post. > > And you call yourself a CS major? > > > Pu-lease. > > You've broken the unwritten rules of respectable stalkee-ism. Dear Leslie, The links were not dead when I made the post. They became dead shortly thereafter for reasons having to do with Computing Services. However, I agree with your point. How can I make it up to you? Let's see, I could write you a Perl script... or... how about a trip with me to see The Matrix: Reloaded? (Note for the terminally humor-impaired, which so far is nearly everyone who's responded to this thread: the above is a joke, although if Leslie cares to make a submission, she is more than welcome to do so.) Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 16:36:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date On Thu, 8 May 2003, Jonathan Lee wrote: > you're a loser. No, I'm the judge. More seriously, this is coming from someone who finds it worth his while to scan through misc.market looking for people who say loser-ish things so he can privately email them telling them that they're losers... Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From cdg@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 16:51:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher D Gessner Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date I would have to agree, if you're going insult someone you should be certain to include the rest of misc.market in on the conversation for humor value. What is the point of an insult if nobody hears [reads] it. Chris On Thu, 8 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > On Thu, 8 May 2003, Jonathan Lee wrote: > > you're a loser. > > No, I'm the judge. > > More seriously, this is coming from someone who finds it worth his while > to scan through misc.market looking for people who say loser-ish things so > he can privately email them telling them that they're losers... > > Kenn > -- > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] > (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex > plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( > List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > From acwong@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 17:00:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert C Wong Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date Shut up, you're a loser On Thu, 8 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > On Thu, 8 May 2003, Jonathan Lee wrote: > > you're a loser. > > No, I'm the judge. > > More seriously, this is coming from someone who finds it worth his while > to scan through misc.market looking for people who say loser-ish things so > he can privately email them telling them that they're losers... > > Kenn > -- > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] > (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex > plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( > List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > From cr2r@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 17:14:58 -0400 From: Christian M. Restifo Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date Sheesh. What's the big deal? It's just a movie. It's not like it's SW:ANH or anything like that. If we're gonna wave around tickets in exchange for potential sexual favors or argue over who's a loser, at least do it over a movie that matters....like Tron or Bladerunner. Buckaroo Bonzai would be another good one. Chris From mcweigel@cs.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 21:06:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Matthew Weigel Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: >write you a Perl script... or... how about a trip with me to see The >Matrix: Reloaded? More non-respectable stalkee behavior: *never confront* an admitted stalker. Pretend they don't exist, or refer to them in the generic. Just look what happened to my fiance when she confronted me... >(Note for the terminally humor-impaired, which so far is nearly everyone >who's responded to this thread: the above is a joke, although if Leslie >cares to make a submission, she is more than welcome to do so.) If she's too good for my or George's excellent parties, she's too good for you, pal. -- Matthew Weigel Research Systems Programmer mcweigel+@cs.cmu.edu From cdg@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 17:28:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher D Gessner Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date In that huge list of requirements he forgot to ask for dimensions, height, weight, and such. Those are some important things to know. Chris From eryu@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 21:28:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Evil J Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date well, I think the recent picture reqs he mentioned does it... but yeah. i'd be so interested to find out who ended up getting that ticket, and how tight was the competition... now, now, WHO WANTS TO watch matrix with A MIL.. I mean, Hamm. --EJ-- (remembering that the first date I had with my bf -other than McConomy movies, was Jay and Silent Bob... I have nothing to say about the content of this "date") ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 17:28:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher D Gessner Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date In that huge list of requirements he forgot to ask for dimensions, height, weight, and such. Those are some important things to know. Chris From mark7@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 22:24:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark J Schreiber Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date An interested party speaks: >So, being a graduating senior, I just picked up a couple of tickets to The ALICE: Next question? You are a graduating senior you just picked up a couple of tickets to The? Does it pay well? >* Must be female ALICE: I have no answer for that >* Must be a CMU undergrad student (freshman through 5th year senior is ALICE: I have no answer for that >If you're interested, please submit by email to kenn@cmu.edu the following ALICE: I think I sometimes am. I don't know whether or not I am interested please submit by email to kenn cmu dot edu the following. I am a giant electronic brain. >* A recent (last 2 years) picture of yourself, or a link to same ALICE: * A recent last 2 years picture of yourself >* An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words describing ALICE: I have no answer for that >* An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words telling me why I ALICE: I have no answer for that >If you have a personal website or webjournal, please include a link to it ALICE: But I don't have it. >The deadline for submissions is Sunday, May 11 at 23:59:59 ALICE: Who told you that? >If you want to know about me, please refer to ALICE: Yes, please tell me. From ttz@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 15:10:14 -0400 From: typhanie Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date So, just out of curiousity, how many applicants applied to be your date? And how close are you to making your decision? From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 16:04:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Matrix date reloaded I have received no qualifying submissions yet. I'm *sure* that there are people meeting my criteria who want to see the movie. One even had the nerve to email me asking if she could buy the ticket if I don't receive any entries. (You know who you are - the answer is NO, since I feel that such a request is intolerably rude, and don't feed me some line about how you already have a boyfriend, because I honestly could care less.) I'm going to assume that the requirements I posed, which I thought were fairly reasonable, are too much effort. So, I'm opening up the contest to free-form submissions. The rules that remain in force are as follows: * You still must be female and go to the movie with me * You still must give me *some* reason to pick you over anyone else * The deadline is still Sunday, May 11 at 23:59:59 If you know anyone who has any chance of being interested and who doesn't read misc.market, please tell her or forward this message to her. I've already had three friends of mine offer to buy the ticket should I not find anyone, so don't bother emailing me about it if you're not interested in the contest. Also, to clarify, I used the subject line "Matrix ticket seeks date" to attract attention. Feel free to call it a date, some weird guy buying you a ticket and sitting next to you, the worst experience of your life, whatever. If you want to know about me, please refer to for information, and for my webjournal. Kenn ---------------- Replies to previous messages in thread ------------------- On Thu, 08 May 2003 16:00:32 -0400, Dorothy E. Bassett wrote: > OK. Time to start my shameless promotion of Latin Dance Classes. It's > *one* way of getting to meet people, and, unlike the Matrix date, they > *have* to see you again even if things don't work out so well. What a flagrant attempt to subvert my thread into something almost equally weird and completely unrelated. Dorothy Bassett, I salute you. On Thu, 08 May 2003 16:05:50 -0400, Joe McDermott wrote: > Hands down the funniest thread of posts I've seen on misc.market all year. > Especially considering how much of it was unintentionally funny. > Wow. > Just wow. I know, it's really hard to believe how many people either totally failed to get the point or were deliberately trolling. On Thu, 8 May 2003 16:09:34 -0400 (EDT), Jesse D Mendelsohn wrote: > You mean all you have to do to get some on this campus is get a ticket to > a sci-fi flick? > > My god! I've wasted so much time thinking alcohol was the way to go. Alcohol is probably a more successful strategy, but come on, we both know that the Matrix will be more fun. I mean, if you're so drunk you can't really remember what you did, how can you be sure that there is a spoon? (Err... sorry.) On Thu, 08 May 2003 17:14:58 -0400, Christian M. Restifo wrote: > Sheesh. What's the big deal? It's just a movie. It's not like it's SW:ANH > or anything like that. If we're gonna wave around tickets in exchange for > potential sexual favors or argue over who's a loser, at least do it over a > movie that matters....like Tron or Bladerunner. Buckaroo Bonzai would be > another good one. I actually thought Tron was pretty silly, although admittedly I was very tired when I saw it. Also, you wisely qualified it with "potential", but still, who said anything about sexual favors? All I'm looking for is companionship. Sheesh, you people are trying really hard to read my post as inflammatory. On Thu, 8 May 2003 21:06:14 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Weigel wrote: > Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > > >write you a Perl script... or... how about a trip with me to see The > >Matrix: Reloaded? > > More non-respectable stalkee behavior: *never confront* an admitted > stalker. Pretend they don't exist, or refer to them in the generic. Okay, I apologize. I admit that I have never been stalked before (or at least, never been aware of such). > >(Note for the terminally humor-impaired, which so far is nearly everyone > >who's responded to this thread: the above is a joke, although if Leslie > >cares to make a submission, she is more than welcome to do so.) > > If she's too good for my or George's excellent parties, she's too good > for you, pal. Quite likely, but would it not behoove you to let my stalkers make their own decisions? On Thu, 8 May 2003 17:28:01 -0400 (EDT), Christopher D Gessner wrote: > In that huge list of requirements he forgot to ask for dimensions, > height, weight, and such. > Those are some important things to know. I actually deliberately avoided asking for those things so as not to seem crude, but see below. On Thu, 8 May 2003 21:28:45 -0400 (EDT), Evil J wrote: > well, I think the recent picture reqs he mentioned does it... but yeah. Right. I figured that asking for measurements is rude, but asking for a picture is just common sense - how would I even recognize her without one? > i'd be so interested to find out who ended up getting that ticket, and how > tight was the competition... It looks like not very. I'm disappointed in this school. I didn't expect a big response, and I did expect some flames, but I also expected at least a few serious entries. On Thu, 8 May 2003 22:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Mark J Schreiber (speaking for A.L.I.C.E., ) wrote: > An interested party speaks: > > >So, being a graduating senior, I just picked up a couple of tickets to > The > > ALICE: Next question? You are a graduating senior you just picked up a > couple of tickets to The? Does it pay well? Sorry, A.L.I.C.E., but you're not female and certainly not a CMU undergrad, and your answers were pretty lackluster too. I think it's still a few years before a computer program can win a contest like this. On Fri, 09 May 2003 15:10:14 -0400, typhanie wrote: > So, just out of curiousity, how many applicants > applied to be your date? See above. > And how close are you to making your decision? Not very. You interested? -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From ltn@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 16:17:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Le Tri Ngo Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date esKenn, I think I qualify for the juicy ticket you are offering. 1) I definitely AM female. 2) I am an undergrad - SOPHOMORE to be JUNIOR Chem & Psych major (you can finger me to check) 3) I don't have a picture online, but I'll post one up and email it to you. 4) A DESCRIPTION OF MYSELF: I was originally born in Vietnam. I immigrated to the US when I was a young'un. I am a VietCong. Ha ha. Just kidding. I have a sense of humor, as you can probably tell by my joke. =) What else? (Does that count towards the 100 word minimum?) I am short. I like to laugh. I like fishes because they're so delicious. That is ME! THE END! 5) GIMME TICKET! You know what they say about girls with pierced tongues? Well, I don't have one so don't get any ideas. I really want to see the Matrix, and I wouldn't mind seeing it with you. I know that's not a hundred words, but fuck it. On Thu, 8 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > So, being a graduating senior, I just picked up a couple of tickets to The > Matrix: Reloaded on Wednesday night. I am now looking for someone to give > my second ticket to, in exchange for accompanying me. This is not a joke. > This is not a left-myself-logged-in post. > > Qualifying factors: > > * Must be female > > * Must be a CMU undergrad student (freshman through 5th year senior is > fine), although I might waive this requirement if you can make a really > good case > > If you're interested, please submit by email to kenn@cmu.edu the following > items: > > * A recent (last 2 years) picture of yourself, or a link to same > > * An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words describing > yourself (please do not include information I can retrieve with > finger(1) - name, major, or class standing, in particular) > > * An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words telling me why I > should pick you over any other applicant > > If you have a personal website or webjournal, please include a link to it > in your submission. Feel free to include any other information or links > you wish, but make sure that the items listed above are clearly marked, > and keep in mind that I may not go through such material, especially if it > is voluminous. > > The deadline for submissions is Sunday, May 11 at 23:59:59 > (coincidentally, the same time as my 15-498 take-home exam is due). The > winner will be notified by email by Monday, May 12 at 23:59:59. If I > receive no acceptable applications by that time, my second ticket will be > for sale for $9.50 (the same price I paid for it), but I hope I don't have > to do that. I reserve the right not to pick a winner even if I do receive > applications. > > If you want to know about me, please refer to > for information, and > for my webjournal. > > Kenn > -- > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] > (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex > plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( > List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > (* Webpage: http://ragnar.nilmop.com/kenn/default.html *) > From dpapasia@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 16:19:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Papasian Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date On Fri, 9 May 2003, Le Tri Ngo wrote: > esKenn, > > I think I qualify for the juicy ticket you are offering. If this happens this would be an official misc.market date and as such I think the entire board is entitled to pictures of the happy couple as well as information about how it went. It'll be like that show, Blind Date, except far more dorkier. -Dan From quinten@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 16:26:50 -0400 From: Quinten Steenhuis Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date On Fri, 9 May 2003, Daniel Papasian wrote: > It'll be like that show, Blind Date, except far more dorkier. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ The dorky thing now would be if this turned into a grammar flamewar. Good thing we're above that. > > -Dan > From danielf@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 16:30:48 -0400 From: Dan Fernandez Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date --On Friday, May 09, 2003 4:17 PM -0400 Le Tri Ngo wrote: > 1) I definitely AM female. > (you can finger me to check) I know that's how I always check. From eryu@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 19:31:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Evil J Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded On Fri, 9 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > > * You still must give me *some* reason to pick you over anyone else I think "because you don't have anyone else" might be good enough reason :-P From jsantana@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 19:45:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Jose Alexander Santana Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded for real...whats wrong with the people at this school? I've been here for five long years and this is the worst I've seen. What makes it the worst is that this person is a graduate, not even some pathetic, lonely undergrad. This is a person who is supposed to have some self respect and ambition. sigh.... Here's my advice to the eligible bachleor: Don't solicit women for favors (unless you're in Vegas, where it is legal). Don't solicit women for favors and pretend you're not soliciting them for favors (again, unless you're in Vegas). If you must resort to soliciting women, don't show them pictures of yourself in a trench coat with a weapon (see his website), that's just a big no-no. Lose the trench coat. Lose the hat. Lose the sword!? Don't brag about how you are scalping tickets to your "friends"...that just makes me want to cuddle up next to you. peace --alex btw. you still got that ticket? > I have received no qualifying submissions yet. I'm *sure* that there are > people meeting my criteria who want to see the movie. One even had the > nerve to email me asking if she could buy the ticket if I don't receive > any entries. (You know who you are - the answer is NO, since I feel that > such a request is intolerably rude, and don't feed me some line about how > you already have a boyfriend, because I honestly could care less.) I'm > going to assume that the requirements I posed, which I thought were fairly > reasonable, are too much effort. So, I'm opening up the contest to > free-form submissions. The rules that remain in force are as follows: > > * You still must be female and go to the movie with me > > * You still must give me *some* reason to pick you over anyone else > > * The deadline is still Sunday, May 11 at 23:59:59 > > If you know anyone who has any chance of being interested and who doesn't > read misc.market, please tell her or forward this message to her. I've > already had three friends of mine offer to buy the ticket should I not > find anyone, so don't bother emailing me about it if you're not interested > in the contest. Also, to clarify, I used the subject line "Matrix ticket > seeks date" to attract attention. Feel free to call it a date, some weird > guy buying you a ticket and sitting next to you, the worst experience of > your life, whatever. > > If you want to know about me, please refer to > for information, and > for my webjournal. > > Kenn > > ---------------- Replies to previous messages in thread ------------------- > > On Thu, 08 May 2003 16:00:32 -0400, Dorothy E. Bassett > wrote: > > > OK. Time to start my shameless promotion of Latin Dance Classes. It's > > *one* way of getting to meet people, and, unlike the Matrix date, they > > *have* to see you again even if things don't work out so well. > > > What a flagrant attempt to subvert my thread into something almost equally > weird and completely unrelated. Dorothy Bassett, I salute you. > > On Thu, 08 May 2003 16:05:50 -0400, Joe McDermott > wrote: > > > Hands down the funniest thread of posts I've seen on misc.market all year. > > Especially considering how much of it was unintentionally funny. > > Wow. > > Just wow. > > I know, it's really hard to believe how many people either totally failed > to get the point or were deliberately trolling. > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 16:09:34 -0400 (EDT), Jesse D Mendelsohn > wrote: > > > You mean all you have to do to get some on this campus is get a ticket to > > a sci-fi flick? > > > > My god! I've wasted so much time thinking alcohol was the way to go. > > Alcohol is probably a more successful strategy, but come on, we both know > that the Matrix will be more fun. I mean, if you're so drunk you can't > really remember what you did, how can you be sure that there is a spoon? > (Err... sorry.) > > On Thu, 08 May 2003 17:14:58 -0400, Christian M. Restifo > wrote: > > > Sheesh. What's the big deal? It's just a movie. It's not like it's SW:ANH > > or anything like that. If we're gonna wave around tickets in exchange for > > potential sexual favors or argue over who's a loser, at least do it over a > > movie that matters....like Tron or Bladerunner. Buckaroo Bonzai would be > > another good one. > > I actually thought Tron was pretty silly, although admittedly I was very > tired when I saw it. Also, you wisely qualified it with "potential", but > still, who said anything about sexual favors? All I'm looking for is > companionship. Sheesh, you people are trying really hard to read my post > as inflammatory. > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 21:06:14 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Weigel > wrote: > > > Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > > > > >write you a Perl script... or... how about a trip with me to see The > > >Matrix: Reloaded? > > > > More non-respectable stalkee behavior: *never confront* an admitted > > stalker. Pretend they don't exist, or refer to them in the generic. > > Okay, I apologize. I admit that I have never been stalked before (or at > least, never been aware of such). > > > >(Note for the terminally humor-impaired, which so far is nearly everyone > > >who's responded to this thread: the above is a joke, although if Leslie > > >cares to make a submission, she is more than welcome to do so.) > > > > If she's too good for my or George's excellent parties, she's too good > > for you, pal. > > Quite likely, but would it not behoove you to let my stalkers make their > own decisions? > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 17:28:01 -0400 (EDT), Christopher D Gessner > wrote: > > > In that huge list of requirements he forgot to ask for dimensions, > > height, weight, and such. > > Those are some important things to know. > > I actually deliberately avoided asking for those things so as not to seem > crude, but see below. > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 21:28:45 -0400 (EDT), Evil J > wrote: > > > well, I think the recent picture reqs he mentioned does it... but yeah. > > Right. I figured that asking for measurements is rude, but asking for a > picture is just common sense - how would I even recognize her without one? > > > i'd be so interested to find out who ended up getting that ticket, and how > > tight was the competition... > > It looks like not very. I'm disappointed in this school. I didn't expect > a big response, and I did expect some flames, but I also expected at least > a few serious entries. > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 22:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Mark J Schreiber > (speaking for A.L.I.C.E., > ) wrote: > > > An interested party speaks: > > > > >So, being a graduating senior, I just picked up a couple of tickets to > > The > > > > ALICE: Next question? You are a graduating senior you just picked up a > > couple of tickets to The? Does it pay well? > > > Sorry, A.L.I.C.E., but you're not female and certainly not a CMU > undergrad, and your answers were pretty lackluster too. I think it's > still a few years before a computer program can win a contest like this. > > On Fri, 09 May 2003 15:10:14 -0400, typhanie wrote: > > > So, just out of curiousity, how many applicants > > applied to be your date? > > See above. > > > And how close are you to making your decision? > > Not very. > You interested? > > -- > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] > (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex > plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( > List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > From houston@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 22:54:53 -0400 From: Doug Houston Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date Turning misc.market into a meat.market? Now there's a concept! Someone should create a sub-bboard, perhaps something like misc.market.personals (to keep it separate from those actually trying to sell meat :) -d --On Thursday, May 8, 2003 13:02 -0400 Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > So, being a graduating senior, I just picked up a couple of tickets to The > Matrix: Reloaded on Wednesday night. I am now looking for someone to give > my second ticket to, in exchange for accompanying me. This is not a joke. > This is not a left-myself-logged-in post. > > Qualifying factors: > > * Must be female > > * Must be a CMU undergrad student (freshman through 5th year senior is > fine), although I might waive this requirement if you can make a really > good case > > If you're interested, please submit by email to kenn@cmu.edu the following > items: > > * A recent (last 2 years) picture of yourself, or a link to same > > * An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words describing > yourself (please do not include information I can retrieve with > finger(1) - name, major, or class standing, in particular) > > * An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words telling me why I > should pick you over any other applicant > > If you have a personal website or webjournal, please include a link to it > in your submission. Feel free to include any other information or links > you wish, but make sure that the items listed above are clearly marked, > and keep in mind that I may not go through such material, especially if it > is voluminous. > > The deadline for submissions is Sunday, May 11 at 23:59:59 > (coincidentally, the same time as my 15-498 take-home exam is due). The > winner will be notified by email by Monday, May 12 at 23:59:59. If I > receive no acceptable applications by that time, my second ticket will be > for sale for $9.50 (the same price I paid for it), but I hope I don't have > to do that. I reserve the right not to pick a winner even if I do receive > applications. > > If you want to know about me, please refer to > for information, and > for my webjournal. > > Kenn > -- > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" > \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| > #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; > print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn > #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > (* Webpage: http://ragnar.nilmop.com/kenn/default.html *) From ttz@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 23:02:30 -0400 From: typhanie Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded You know, you've asked girls for their pics, but you have failed to produce a pic of your own. So I think you should send us all a link to a recent pic of you and then maybe, note the maybe.. you will get more applicants :-) ~typhanie From leko@cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 00:44:20 -0400 From: Aaron Solochek Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date Don't do it! He's an ascii-pornographer! He just wants to exploit you and plaster your ascii-likeness all over the internet! -Aaron Le Tri Ngo wrote: > esKenn, > > I think I qualify for the juicy ticket you are offering. > > 1) I definitely AM female. > > 2) I am an undergrad - SOPHOMORE to be JUNIOR Chem & Psych major (you can > finger me to check) > > 3) I don't have a picture online, but I'll post one up and email it to > you. > > 4) A DESCRIPTION OF MYSELF: > I was originally born in Vietnam. I immigrated to the US when I > was a young'un. I am a VietCong. Ha ha. Just kidding. I have a sense > of humor, as you can probably tell by my joke. =) What else? (Does that > count towards the 100 word minimum?) I am short. I like to laugh. I > like fishes because they're so delicious. That is ME! THE END! > > 5) GIMME TICKET! > You know what they say about girls with pierced tongues? Well, I > don't have one so don't get any ideas. I really want to see the Matrix, > and I wouldn't mind seeing it with you. I know that's not a hundred > words, but fuck it. > > > > On Thu, 8 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > > >>So, being a graduating senior, I just picked up a couple of tickets to The >>Matrix: Reloaded on Wednesday night. I am now looking for someone to give >>my second ticket to, in exchange for accompanying me. This is not a joke. >>This is not a left-myself-logged-in post. >> >>Qualifying factors: >> >>* Must be female >> >>* Must be a CMU undergrad student (freshman through 5th year senior is >> fine), although I might waive this requirement if you can make a really >> good case >> >>If you're interested, please submit by email to kenn@cmu.edu the following >>items: >> >>* A recent (last 2 years) picture of yourself, or a link to same >> >>* An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words describing >> yourself (please do not include information I can retrieve with >> finger(1) - name, major, or class standing, in particular) >> >>* An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words telling me why I >> should pick you over any other applicant >> >>If you have a personal website or webjournal, please include a link to it >>in your submission. Feel free to include any other information or links >>you wish, but make sure that the items listed above are clearly marked, >>and keep in mind that I may not go through such material, especially if it >>is voluminous. >> >>The deadline for submissions is Sunday, May 11 at 23:59:59 >>(coincidentally, the same time as my 15-498 take-home exam is due). The >>winner will be notified by email by Monday, May 12 at 23:59:59. If I >>receive no acceptable applications by that time, my second ticket will be >>for sale for $9.50 (the same price I paid for it), but I hope I don't have >>to do that. I reserve the right not to pick a winner even if I do receive >>applications. >> >>If you want to know about me, please refer to >> for information, and >> for my webjournal. >> >>Kenn >>-- >>val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] >> (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex >>plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( >>List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) >> >>(* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) >> (* Webpage: http://ragnar.nilmop.com/kenn/default.html *) >> From axc@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 00:45:56 -0400 (EDT) From: .JanusAurelius Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded Goddammit!!! Your link is broken *AGAIN*. And you call yourself a CS major? I'm gonna castrate your *brain* with my BOOMSTICK! .arthur p.s. I'm a better candidate than that typhanie person. gimme the freaking ticket! and no! i'm not gonna go out with you. just give me the goddamn ticket and REMOVE your miserable self from the gene pool. On Fri, 9 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > I have received no qualifying submissions yet. I'm *sure* that there are > people meeting my criteria who want to see the movie. One even had the > nerve to email me asking if she could buy the ticket if I don't receive > any entries. (You know who you are - the answer is NO, since I feel that > such a request is intolerably rude, and don't feed me some line about how > you already have a boyfriend, because I honestly could care less.) I'm > going to assume that the requirements I posed, which I thought were fairly > reasonable, are too much effort. So, I'm opening up the contest to > free-form submissions. The rules that remain in force are as follows: > > * You still must be female and go to the movie with me > > * You still must give me *some* reason to pick you over anyone else > > * The deadline is still Sunday, May 11 at 23:59:59 > > If you know anyone who has any chance of being interested and who doesn't > read misc.market, please tell her or forward this message to her. I've > already had three friends of mine offer to buy the ticket should I not > find anyone, so don't bother emailing me about it if you're not interested > in the contest. Also, to clarify, I used the subject line "Matrix ticket > seeks date" to attract attention. Feel free to call it a date, some weird > guy buying you a ticket and sitting next to you, the worst experience of > your life, whatever. > > If you want to know about me, please refer to > for information, and > for my webjournal. > > Kenn > > ---------------- Replies to previous messages in thread ------------------- > > On Thu, 08 May 2003 16:00:32 -0400, Dorothy E. Bassett > wrote: > > > OK. Time to start my shameless promotion of Latin Dance Classes. It's > > *one* way of getting to meet people, and, unlike the Matrix date, they > > *have* to see you again even if things don't work out so well. > > > What a flagrant attempt to subvert my thread into something almost equally > weird and completely unrelated. Dorothy Bassett, I salute you. > > On Thu, 08 May 2003 16:05:50 -0400, Joe McDermott > wrote: > > > Hands down the funniest thread of posts I've seen on misc.market all year. > > Especially considering how much of it was unintentionally funny. > > Wow. > > Just wow. > > I know, it's really hard to believe how many people either totally failed > to get the point or were deliberately trolling. > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 16:09:34 -0400 (EDT), Jesse D Mendelsohn > wrote: > > > You mean all you have to do to get some on this campus is get a ticket to > > a sci-fi flick? > > > > My god! I've wasted so much time thinking alcohol was the way to go. > > Alcohol is probably a more successful strategy, but come on, we both know > that the Matrix will be more fun. I mean, if you're so drunk you can't > really remember what you did, how can you be sure that there is a spoon? > (Err... sorry.) > > On Thu, 08 May 2003 17:14:58 -0400, Christian M. Restifo > wrote: > > > Sheesh. What's the big deal? It's just a movie. It's not like it's SW:ANH > > or anything like that. If we're gonna wave around tickets in exchange for > > potential sexual favors or argue over who's a loser, at least do it over a > > movie that matters....like Tron or Bladerunner. Buckaroo Bonzai would be > > another good one. > > I actually thought Tron was pretty silly, although admittedly I was very > tired when I saw it. Also, you wisely qualified it with "potential", but > still, who said anything about sexual favors? All I'm looking for is > companionship. Sheesh, you people are trying really hard to read my post > as inflammatory. > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 21:06:14 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Weigel > wrote: > > > Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > > > > >write you a Perl script... or... how about a trip with me to see The > > >Matrix: Reloaded? > > > > More non-respectable stalkee behavior: *never confront* an admitted > > stalker. Pretend they don't exist, or refer to them in the generic. > > Okay, I apologize. I admit that I have never been stalked before (or at > least, never been aware of such). > > > >(Note for the terminally humor-impaired, which so far is nearly everyone > > >who's responded to this thread: the above is a joke, although if Leslie > > >cares to make a submission, she is more than welcome to do so.) > > > > If she's too good for my or George's excellent parties, she's too good > > for you, pal. > > Quite likely, but would it not behoove you to let my stalkers make their > own decisions? > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 17:28:01 -0400 (EDT), Christopher D Gessner > wrote: > > > In that huge list of requirements he forgot to ask for dimensions, > > height, weight, and such. > > Those are some important things to know. > > I actually deliberately avoided asking for those things so as not to seem > crude, but see below. > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 21:28:45 -0400 (EDT), Evil J > wrote: > > > well, I think the recent picture reqs he mentioned does it... but yeah. > > Right. I figured that asking for measurements is rude, but asking for a > picture is just common sense - how would I even recognize her without one? > > > i'd be so interested to find out who ended up getting that ticket, and how > > tight was the competition... > > It looks like not very. I'm disappointed in this school. I didn't expect > a big response, and I did expect some flames, but I also expected at least > a few serious entries. > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 22:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Mark J Schreiber > (speaking for A.L.I.C.E., > ) wrote: > > > An interested party speaks: > > > > >So, being a graduating senior, I just picked up a couple of tickets to > > The > > > > ALICE: Next question? You are a graduating senior you just picked up a > > couple of tickets to The? Does it pay well? > > > Sorry, A.L.I.C.E., but you're not female and certainly not a CMU > undergrad, and your answers were pretty lackluster too. I think it's > still a few years before a computer program can win a contest like this. > > On Fri, 09 May 2003 15:10:14 -0400, typhanie wrote: > > > So, just out of curiousity, how many applicants > > applied to be your date? > > See above. > > > And how close are you to making your decision? > > Not very. > You interested? > > -- > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] > (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex > plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( > List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > From freale@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 01:23:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Francesca D. Reale Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded Dear Kenn, My girlfriends and I have one question: Why aren't you writing an essay to get a date with us? We have all decided that if you want to even get one legitimate response that you are going to have to work for it. We want 2 essays: - In at least 100 words and at most 200, describe to us why we shouldn't just dismiss you as a lame and desperate senior who has decided that since he was able to get 2 tickets to a movie ( that every senior had the privilege of purchasing ), he is a prize to be won. - The second essay will be on the topic "Cleanliness is Next To Godliness." It should be completed in more than 100 sincere words and should describe why we should sit next to someone ( for a whole movie ) that probably smells like Unix BO. Thank you in advance, Francesca et al. On Fri, 9 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > I have received no qualifying submissions yet. I'm *sure* that there are > people meeting my criteria who want to see the movie. One even had the > nerve to email me asking if she could buy the ticket if I don't receive > any entries. (You know who you are - the answer is NO, since I feel that > such a request is intolerably rude, and don't feed me some line about how > you already have a boyfriend, because I honestly could care less.) I'm > going to assume that the requirements I posed, which I thought were fairly > reasonable, are too much effort. So, I'm opening up the contest to > free-form submissions. The rules that remain in force are as follows: > > * You still must be female and go to the movie with me > > * You still must give me *some* reason to pick you over anyone else > > * The deadline is still Sunday, May 11 at 23:59:59 > > If you know anyone who has any chance of being interested and who doesn't > read misc.market, please tell her or forward this message to her. I've > already had three friends of mine offer to buy the ticket should I not > find anyone, so don't bother emailing me about it if you're not interested > in the contest. Also, to clarify, I used the subject line "Matrix ticket > seeks date" to attract attention. Feel free to call it a date, some weird > guy buying you a ticket and sitting next to you, the worst experience of > your life, whatever. > > If you want to know about me, please refer to > for information, and > for my webjournal. > > Kenn > > ---------------- Replies to previous messages in thread ------------------- > > On Thu, 08 May 2003 16:00:32 -0400, Dorothy E. Bassett > wrote: > > > OK. Time to start my shameless promotion of Latin Dance Classes. It's > > *one* way of getting to meet people, and, unlike the Matrix date, they > > *have* to see you again even if things don't work out so well. > > > What a flagrant attempt to subvert my thread into something almost equally > weird and completely unrelated. Dorothy Bassett, I salute you. > > On Thu, 08 May 2003 16:05:50 -0400, Joe McDermott > wrote: > > > Hands down the funniest thread of posts I've seen on misc.market all year. > > Especially considering how much of it was unintentionally funny. > > Wow. > > Just wow. > > I know, it's really hard to believe how many people either totally failed > to get the point or were deliberately trolling. > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 16:09:34 -0400 (EDT), Jesse D Mendelsohn > wrote: > > > You mean all you have to do to get some on this campus is get a ticket to > > a sci-fi flick? > > > > My god! I've wasted so much time thinking alcohol was the way to go. > > Alcohol is probably a more successful strategy, but come on, we both know > that the Matrix will be more fun. I mean, if you're so drunk you can't > really remember what you did, how can you be sure that there is a spoon? > (Err... sorry.) > > On Thu, 08 May 2003 17:14:58 -0400, Christian M. Restifo > wrote: > > > Sheesh. What's the big deal? It's just a movie. It's not like it's SW:ANH > > or anything like that. If we're gonna wave around tickets in exchange for > > potential sexual favors or argue over who's a loser, at least do it over a > > movie that matters....like Tron or Bladerunner. Buckaroo Bonzai would be > > another good one. > > I actually thought Tron was pretty silly, although admittedly I was very > tired when I saw it. Also, you wisely qualified it with "potential", but > still, who said anything about sexual favors? All I'm looking for is > companionship. Sheesh, you people are trying really hard to read my post > as inflammatory. > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 21:06:14 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Weigel > wrote: > > > Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > > > > >write you a Perl script... or... how about a trip with me to see The > > >Matrix: Reloaded? > > > > More non-respectable stalkee behavior: *never confront* an admitted > > stalker. Pretend they don't exist, or refer to them in the generic. > > Okay, I apologize. I admit that I have never been stalked before (or at > least, never been aware of such). > > > >(Note for the terminally humor-impaired, which so far is nearly everyone > > >who's responded to this thread: the above is a joke, although if Leslie > > >cares to make a submission, she is more than welcome to do so.) > > > > If she's too good for my or George's excellent parties, she's too good > > for you, pal. > > Quite likely, but would it not behoove you to let my stalkers make their > own decisions? > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 17:28:01 -0400 (EDT), Christopher D Gessner > wrote: > > > In that huge list of requirements he forgot to ask for dimensions, > > height, weight, and such. > > Those are some important things to know. > > I actually deliberately avoided asking for those things so as not to seem > crude, but see below. > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 21:28:45 -0400 (EDT), Evil J > wrote: > > > well, I think the recent picture reqs he mentioned does it... but yeah. > > Right. I figured that asking for measurements is rude, but asking for a > picture is just common sense - how would I even recognize her without one? > > > i'd be so interested to find out who ended up getting that ticket, and how > > tight was the competition... > > It looks like not very. I'm disappointed in this school. I didn't expect > a big response, and I did expect some flames, but I also expected at least > a few serious entries. > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 22:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Mark J Schreiber > (speaking for A.L.I.C.E., > ) wrote: > > > An interested party speaks: > > > > >So, being a graduating senior, I just picked up a couple of tickets to > > The > > > > ALICE: Next question? You are a graduating senior you just picked up a > > couple of tickets to The? Does it pay well? > > > Sorry, A.L.I.C.E., but you're not female and certainly not a CMU > undergrad, and your answers were pretty lackluster too. I think it's > still a few years before a computer program can win a contest like this. > > On Fri, 09 May 2003 15:10:14 -0400, typhanie wrote: > > > So, just out of curiousity, how many applicants > > applied to be your date? > > See above. > > > And how close are you to making your decision? > > Not very. > You interested? > > -- > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] > (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex > plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( > List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 01:27:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded On Sat, 10 May 2003, Leslie L Good wrote: > Kenn > > What the fuck dude. > > those links are dead. > > Don't use the "computing services sucks" excuse again. > > Why ARE YOU STILL LINKING??? You need to accept it and move on that you > never made a webpage, and that you don't know how to make a webpage, and > that you will never make a webpage. > > Say it with me now: > > "I will stop pretending I have a webpage". Dear Leslie, You're right, I am a complete and utter moron. I appreciate your sending me this by private email so as not to publicly humiliate me; however, I hope you won't mind my sending the reply to the bboard, as it only makes me look back, not you. Allow me to explain. When my original server was taking down, I put up a mirror on a friend's system. The correct URLs to the two pages to which I linked, as you can see in misc.market post #15,226 (as of right now; I don't promise how long that number will remain valid) are: for the page about me. for my webjournal. However, when I posted mesage #15,443 (the first one with subject "Matrix date reloaded"), I copy/pasted the links from my original post and edited them to point to the mirror, but forgot to insert the "~" character before "kenn", giving which of course don't exist. (I've asked my friend to make the latter a symlink to the former, so if anyone clicks through on those links they'll work; he hasn't actually done so yet.) Your call whether to forgive me, but at least now you understand. Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From ttz@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 01:45:01 -0400 From: typhanie Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded Kenn, I've got to admit, I think it's pretty gutsy of u to post a date request on misc market. Some people are being pretty harsh and you're taking it well. I for one, wouldn't be so kind in my responses... although, I don't think i'd brave enough to accept a blind date from misc. market either. I won't be here on Wed, so as much as I would love to help u disappoint girls who are simply dying to see Matrix, I am afraid that I am must take myself out of the running. p.s. ur links still don't work p.p.s. JanusAurelius, or whatever your name is... if it really came down to a contest between choosing you or me for a date, i can gaurentee that i will be the better candidate, no contest! --On Saturday, May 10, 2003 1:23 AM -0400 "Francesca D. Reale" wrote: > Dear Kenn, > My girlfriends and I have one question: > Why aren't you writing an essay to get a date > with us? > > We have all decided that if you want to even get > one legitimate response that you are going to > have to work for it. We want 2 essays: > > - In at least 100 words and at most 200, > describe to us why we shouldn't just dismiss you > as a lame and desperate senior who has decided > that since he was able to get 2 tickets to a movie > ( that every senior had the privilege of > purchasing ), he is a prize to be won. - The > second essay will be on the topic "Cleanliness is > Next To Godliness." It should be completed in > more than 100 sincere words and should describe > why we should sit next to someone ( for a whole > movie ) that probably smells like Unix BO. > > Thank you in advance, > Francesca et al. > > > On Fri, 9 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > >> I have received no qualifying submissions yet. >> I'm *sure* that there are people meeting my >> criteria who want to see the movie. One even had >> the nerve to email me asking if she could buy the >> ticket if I don't receive any entries. (You know >> who you are - the answer is NO, since I feel that >> such a request is intolerably rude, and don't >> feed me some line about how you already have a >> boyfriend, because I honestly could care less.) >> I'm going to assume that the requirements I >> posed, which I thought were fairly reasonable, >> are too much effort. So, I'm opening up the >> contest to free-form submissions. The rules that >> remain in force are as follows: >> >> * You still must be female and go to the movie >> with me >> >> * You still must give me *some* reason to pick >> you over anyone else >> >> * The deadline is still Sunday, May 11 at 23:59:59 >> >> If you know anyone who has any chance of being >> interested and who doesn't read misc.market, >> please tell her or forward this message to her. >> I've already had three friends of mine offer to >> buy the ticket should I not find anyone, so don't >> bother emailing me about it if you're not >> interested in the contest. Also, to clarify, I >> used the subject line "Matrix ticket seeks date" >> to attract attention. Feel free to call it a >> date, some weird guy buying you a ticket and >> sitting next to you, the worst experience of your >> life, whatever. >> >> If you want to know about me, please refer to >> for >> information, and >> >> for my webjournal. >> >> Kenn >> >> ---------------- Replies to previous messages in >> thread ------------------- >> >> On Thu, 08 May 2003 16:00:32 -0400, Dorothy E. >> Bassett wrote: >> >> > OK. Time to start my shameless promotion of >> > Latin Dance Classes. It's *one* way of getting >> > to meet people, and, unlike the Matrix date, >> > they *have* to see you again even if things >> > don't work out so well. >> >> >> What a flagrant attempt to subvert my thread into >> something almost equally weird and completely >> unrelated. Dorothy Bassett, I salute you. >> >> On Thu, 08 May 2003 16:05:50 -0400, Joe McDermott >> wrote: >> >> > Hands down the funniest thread of posts I've >> > seen on misc.market all year. Especially >> > considering how much of it was unintentionally >> > funny. Wow. >> > Just wow. >> >> I know, it's really hard to believe how many >> people either totally failed to get the point or >> were deliberately trolling. >> >> On Thu, 8 May 2003 16:09:34 -0400 (EDT), Jesse D >> Mendelsohn wrote: >> >> > You mean all you have to do to get some on this >> > campus is get a ticket to a sci-fi flick? >> > >> > My god! I've wasted so much time thinking >> > alcohol was the way to go. >> >> Alcohol is probably a more successful strategy, >> but come on, we both know that the Matrix will be >> more fun. I mean, if you're so drunk you can't >> really remember what you did, how can you be sure >> that there is a spoon? (Err... sorry.) >> >> On Thu, 08 May 2003 17:14:58 -0400, Christian M. >> Restifo wrote: >> >> > Sheesh. What's the big deal? It's just a movie. >> > It's not like it's SW:ANH or anything like >> > that. If we're gonna wave around tickets in >> > exchange for potential sexual favors or argue >> > over who's a loser, at least do it over a movie >> > that matters....like Tron or Bladerunner. >> > Buckaroo Bonzai would be another good one. >> >> I actually thought Tron was pretty silly, >> although admittedly I was very tired when I saw >> it. Also, you wisely qualified it with >> "potential", but still, who said anything about >> sexual favors? All I'm looking for is >> companionship. Sheesh, you people are trying >> really hard to read my post as inflammatory. >> >> On Thu, 8 May 2003 21:06:14 +0000 (UTC), Matthew >> Weigel wrote: >> >> > Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: >> > >> > > write you a Perl script... or... how about a >> > > trip with me to see The Matrix: Reloaded? >> > >> > More non-respectable stalkee behavior: *never >> > confront* an admitted stalker. Pretend they >> > don't exist, or refer to them in the generic. >> >> Okay, I apologize. I admit that I have never >> been stalked before (or at least, never been >> aware of such). >> >> > > (Note for the terminally humor-impaired, >> > > which so far is nearly everyone who's >> > > responded to this thread: the above is a >> > > joke, although if Leslie cares to make a >> > > submission, she is more than welcome to do >> > > so.) >> > >> > If she's too good for my or George's excellent >> > parties, she's too good for you, pal. >> >> Quite likely, but would it not behoove you to let >> my stalkers make their own decisions? >> >> On Thu, 8 May 2003 17:28:01 -0400 (EDT), >> Christopher D Gessner wrote: >> >> > In that huge list of requirements he >> > forgot to ask for dimensions, height, >> > weight, and such. >> > Those are some important things to know. >> >> I actually deliberately avoided asking for those >> things so as not to seem crude, but see below. >> >> On Thu, 8 May 2003 21:28:45 -0400 (EDT), Evil J >> wrote: >> >> > well, I think the recent picture reqs he >> > mentioned does it... but yeah. >> >> Right. I figured that asking for measurements is >> rude, but asking for a picture is just common >> sense - how would I even recognize her without >> one? >> >> > i'd be so interested to find out who ended up >> > getting that ticket, and how tight was the >> > competition... >> >> It looks like not very. I'm disappointed in this >> school. I didn't expect a big response, and I >> did expect some flames, but I also expected at >> least a few serious entries. >> >> On Thu, 8 May 2003 22:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Mark J >> Schreiber (speaking for >> A.L.I.C.E., ) wrote: >> >> > An interested party speaks: >> > >> > > So, being a graduating senior, I just picked >> > > up a couple of tickets to >> > The >> > >> > ALICE: Next question? You are a graduating >> > senior you just picked up a couple of tickets >> > to The? Does it pay well? >> >> >> Sorry, A.L.I.C.E., but you're not female and >> certainly not a CMU undergrad, and your answers >> were pretty lackluster too. I think it's still a >> few years before a computer program can win a >> contest like this. >> >> On Fri, 09 May 2003 15:10:14 -0400, typhanie >> wrote: >> >> > So, just out of curiousity, how many applicants >> > applied to be your date? >> >> See above. >> >> > And how close are you to making your decision? >> >> Not very. >> You interested? >> >> -- >> val K="open String; print(\"val >> K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] >> (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| >> #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode >> K))))" open String; print("val >> K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map >> (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) >> (explode K)))) >> >> (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. >> Remove newlines to run. *) >> From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:58 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 04:29:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix ticket seeks date On Fri, 9 May 2003 16:17:07 -0400 (EDT), Le Tri Ngo wrote: > esKenn, > > I think I qualify for the juicy ticket you are offering. Le, Although your entry is appreciated, it presents me with a conflict of interest. I happen to know that you are currently dating a good friend of mine, and thus, although I'm sure that misc.market readers would urge me to take what I can get, I must in the interests of propriety disqualify you. On Fri, 9 May 2003 16:19:56 -0400 (EDT), Daniel Papasian wrote: > On Fri, 9 May 2003, Le Tri Ngo wrote: > > esKenn, > > > > I think I qualify for the juicy ticket you are offering. > > If this happens this would be an official misc.market date and as such I > think the entire board is entitled to pictures of the happy couple as well > as information about how it went. Sorry, Dan. But, if I receive any other entries and the winner is okay with it, I think this would be a good idea. On Fri, 09 May 2003 16:30:48 -0400, Dan Fernandez wrote: > --On Friday, May 09, 2003 4:17 PM -0400 Le Tri Ngo > wrote: > > > 1) I definitely AM female. > > > > > (you can finger me to check) > > I know that's how I always check. Actually, ironically enough, CMU's finger(1) information does not include gender. (Yeah, yeah, I'm a dork, whatever.) On Fri, 9 May 2003 19:31:43 -0400 (EDT), Evil J wrote: > On Fri, 9 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > > > > > * You still must give me *some* reason to pick you over anyone else > > I think "because you don't have anyone else" might be good enough reason > :-P Yup, might be. Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 04:31:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded You, Jose Alexander Santana, are an utter imbecile. Originally your post seemed a completely random aggregation of garbage, designed to badmouth me to people too lazy to investigate your claims for themselves, but after a fortuitous discussion with my friend (who also operates the new server on which my site is mirrored), I figured out what had happened. Allow me to dissect your errors: On Fri, 9 May 2003 19:45:23 -0400 (EDT), Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > for real...whats wrong with the people at this school? > I've been here for five long years and this is the worst I've seen. > > What makes it the worst is that this person is a graduate, not even some > pathetic, lonely undergrad. This is a person who is supposed to have some > self respect and ambition. sigh.... I'm not yet a graduate. I still have two more finals to complete, in fact. I am *graduating*, but that's not what you said. > Here's my advice to the eligible bachleor: > > Don't solicit women for favors (unless you're in Vegas, where it is > legal). > > Don't solicit women for favors and pretend you're not soliciting them for > favors (again, unless you're in Vegas). The most appropriate definition of the word "solicit" from Merriam-Webster seems to be 3 a : to entice or lure especially into evil b : to proposition (someone) especially as or in the character of a prostitute -- Given that you were referring specifically to prostitution, while it is legal in much of the state of Nevada, it is *not* legal in Las Vegas; see , section 3.1. This, of course, ignores the fact that I was *not* soliciting prostitution, and that your assumption that I was simply shows to what extent you assume everyone else to be as obsessed with his dick as you obviously are. > If you must resort to soliciting women, don't show them pictures of > yourself in a trench coat with a weapon (see his website), that's just a > big no-no. > > Lose the trench coat. > > Lose the hat. This part was what really had me confused, because I do wear a trenchcoat and hat often, but I was pretty sure I don't have any pictures of myself thus adorned on my website. > Lose the sword!? Would you by any chance be referring to such pictures as ? If so, did not the filename and lack of the word "kenn" anywhere in the URL clue you in to the possibility that this might not be me? In fact, it's a picture of Ed, the friend of mine on whose server I put up a mirror. Ed has been dating the same girl for 4 years (he was a friend of mine in high school), and still gets more attention from other girls than he needs, so I really don't think he needs your advice. My best guess as to what happened is that you went to one of the links in which I accidentally left out a "~" character, and receiving a 404 error, went to the root of the site and proceeded to assume that everything there was mine. You lose. > Don't brag about how you are scalping tickets to your "friends"...that > just makes me want to cuddle up next to you. I'm not scalping: 3 : to buy and sell so as to make small quick profits ; especially : to resell at greatly increased prices (m-w.com makes it a real pain to get links to their pages, but you can find this one by going to and choosing "scalp[2,verb]".) I specifically said in my initial post that I would resell the ticket, if necessary, at the same price I paid for it, $9.50. And I have no idea what makes you think I'd be the least bit willing to allow you to "cuddle up next to me". Also, while I'm at it, I only have one ticket I'm not going to use on myself (I want to see the movie too). > peace > --alex > > btw. you still got that ticket? Sure do. Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 04:34:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded On Fri, 09 May 2003 23:02:30 -0400, typhanie wrote: > You know, you've asked girls for their pics, but you > have failed to produce a pic of your own. > > So I think you should send us all a link to a recent > pic of you and then maybe, note the maybe.. you will > get more applicants :-) A fair request. My website (which I realize many of you were unable to reach for a time due to my incompetence) does have a picture of me, which you can view separately at , but that's only a face shot (I took it to put a face on my site, so to speak), so I've put up another picture, , which I took within the past couple of hours. On Sat, 10 May 2003 01:23:23 -0400 (EDT), Francesca D. Reale wrote: > Dear Kenn, > My girlfriends and I have one question: > Why aren't you writing an essay to get a date with us? Again, a perfectly legitimate question. > We have all decided that if you want to even get one legitimate > response that you are going to have to work for it. We want 2 essays: > > - In at least 100 words and at most 200, describe to us why we > shouldn't just dismiss you as a lame and desperate senior who has decided > that since he was able to get 2 tickets to a movie ( that every senior > had the privilege of purchasing ), he is a prize to be won. First of all, I'm not a prize to be won. My second ticket and a seat beside me are. I'm not offering my everlasting devotion, just one night in which you get to see a movie in which you're presumably interested. Second, what signs of desperation have you seen from me? I'm not going to be crushed if I don't receive any legitimate responses, I just think it would be more fun (for both of us) that way. As to whether I am "lame" or not, I think that sticking this thing out so far in good humor when I have received so many flames shows at least something about me. However (completing the progression from end to beginning of your sentence), when you bring in the word "should", you of course raise the question "should do if you want to achieve what?" It all depends on what your goals are. I'm not going to try to go into metaethics in 29 words, so I guess that's for you to decide. > - The second essay will be on the topic "Cleanliness is Next To > Godliness." It should be completed in more than 100 sincere words and > should describe why we should sit next to someone ( for a whole movie ) > that probably smells like Unix BO. The terms of this question are very confusing to me. First you tell me that the topic is "Cleanliness is Next To Godliness", implying that cleanliness is a good thing, then you tell me to describe why you should tolerate a *lack* of cleanliness. (No, I'm not counting this meta stuff towards my word quota.) That said, I'll do my best. I think that cleanliness as a social norm has evolved for a variety of reasons. (That it *is* a social norm, at least as concerns body odor, rather than an innate requirement is clear, I think - a few hundred years ago people very rarely cleaned themselves.) Primarily, it is an indicator of who is likely to be healthier, since not keeping clean is strongly associated with higher rates of infection. Also, humans do seem to have low-level reactions against rotting foods and such, since these are likely to have detrimental health effects. Having gotten all that out of the way, one reason that you might want to sit next to me for a whole movie is that I paid for your ticket. Others might be that you enjoy my companionship, or that your perfume drowns out anything you could possibly smell from my direction, or that you're a spy sent to kill me who has to wait for the right moment with no witnesses, irrespective of minor details like body odor. The one-line answer that I would have given if I didn't have a word quota, though, is that I promise to take a shower and otherwise ensure that I am clean on Wednesday evening. Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 04:35:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded On Sat, 10 May 2003 00:44:20 -0400, Aaron Solochek wrote: > Don't do it! He's an ascii-pornographer! He just wants to exploit you > and plaster your ascii-likeness all over the internet! Sheesh, I'm surprised that anyone still remembers that... ;-) On Sat, 10 May 2003 00:45:56 -0400 (EDT), .JanusAurelius wrote: > Goddammit!!! Your link is broken *AGAIN*. And you call yourself a CS > major? I'm gonna castrate your *brain* with my BOOMSTICK! I didn't find much in a web search for "boomstick", so I'm going to assume you meant to write "broomstick", but left out a letter by accident. See how easy it is to do that? That's precisely the kind of mistake I made with the links the second time, except that it was a "~" character I left out. CS major or not, there's only one way to never make errors in your posts - never post. > p.s. I'm a better candidate than that typhanie person. gimme the > freaking ticket! and no! i'm not gonna go out with you. just give me > the goddamn ticket and REMOVE your miserable self from the gene pool. Aww, you're cute when you're stupid. Too bad you're neither interested in the contest nor a girl (or at least, you'd be the first female "Arthur" *I've* ever met...) On Sat, 10 May 2003 01:45:01 -0400, typhanie wrote: > Kenn, > > I've got to admit, I think it's pretty gutsy of u to > post a date request on misc market. Some people are > being pretty harsh and you're taking it well. Thanks for the encouragement. It really helps to know that some people out there are a little smarter than the typical "wow, what a loser" crowd. > I for one, wouldn't be so kind in my responses... > although, I don't think i'd brave enough to accept a > blind date from misc. market either. Eh, it's not really "blind" in the traditional sense... I gave out pics, and asked for them. Also, it's just a one-time thing, in a very large group of people. Not very high-risk. > I won't be here on Wed, so as much as I would love > to help u disappoint girls who are simply dying to > see Matrix, I am afraid that I am must take myself > out of the running. I was worried that some people who might consider entering would already be leaving before Wednesday. Oh well, water under the bridge. > p.s. ur links still don't work I'm sorry. The new ones do. > p.p.s. JanusAurelius, or whatever your name is... if > it really came down to a contest between choosing > you or me for a date, i can gaurentee that i will be > the better candidate, no contest! I'm inclined to agree; not only do you have the advantage of being of the right gender, but thus far you've given no evidence of being a flaming asshole, in marked contrast to Arthur. Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From lau2@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 10:04:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Kathy Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded So is anyone looking for dates for any of the other senior events? =) - Kat On Sat, 10 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > On Sat, 10 May 2003 00:44:20 -0400, Aaron Solochek wrote: > > > Don't do it! He's an ascii-pornographer! He just wants to exploit you > > and plaster your ascii-likeness all over the internet! > > Sheesh, I'm surprised that anyone still remembers that... ;-) > > On Sat, 10 May 2003 00:45:56 -0400 (EDT), .JanusAurelius > wrote: > > > Goddammit!!! Your link is broken *AGAIN*. And you call yourself a CS > > major? I'm gonna castrate your *brain* with my BOOMSTICK! > > I didn't find much in a web search for "boomstick", so I'm going to assume > you meant to write "broomstick", but left out a letter by accident. See > how easy it is to do that? That's precisely the kind of mistake I made > with the links the second time, except that it was a "~" character I left > out. > > CS major or not, there's only one way to never make errors in your posts - > never post. > > > p.s. I'm a better candidate than that typhanie person. gimme the > > freaking ticket! and no! i'm not gonna go out with you. just give me > > the goddamn ticket and REMOVE your miserable self from the gene pool. > > Aww, you're cute when you're stupid. Too bad you're neither interested in > the contest nor a girl (or at least, you'd be the first female "Arthur" > *I've* ever met...) > > On Sat, 10 May 2003 01:45:01 -0400, typhanie wrote: > > > Kenn, > > > > I've got to admit, I think it's pretty gutsy of u to > > post a date request on misc market. Some people are > > being pretty harsh and you're taking it well. > > Thanks for the encouragement. It really helps to know that some people > out there are a little smarter than the typical "wow, what a loser" crowd. > > > I for one, wouldn't be so kind in my responses... > > although, I don't think i'd brave enough to accept a > > blind date from misc. market either. > > Eh, it's not really "blind" in the traditional sense... I gave out pics, > and asked for them. Also, it's just a one-time thing, in a very large > group of people. Not very high-risk. > > > I won't be here on Wed, so as much as I would love > > to help u disappoint girls who are simply dying to > > see Matrix, I am afraid that I am must take myself > > out of the running. > > I was worried that some people who might consider entering would already > be leaving before Wednesday. Oh well, water under the bridge. > > > p.s. ur links still don't work > > I'm sorry. The new ones do. > > > p.p.s. JanusAurelius, or whatever your name is... if > > it really came down to a contest between choosing > > you or me for a date, i can gaurentee that i will be > > the better candidate, no contest! > > I'm inclined to agree; not only do you have the advantage of being of the > right gender, but thus far you've given no evidence of being a flaming > asshole, in marked contrast to Arthur. > > Kenn > -- > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] > (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex > plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( > List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > From dcox@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 10:33:22 -0400 From: dcox Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded > >> Goddammit!!! Your link is broken *AGAIN*. And you call yourself a CS >> major? I'm gonna castrate your *brain* with my BOOMSTICK! > > I didn't find much in a web search for "boomstick", so I'm going to assume > you meant to write "broomstick", but left out a letter by accident. Now that's just wrong: a college senior and still ignorant of Army of Darkness. Not to mention that the boomstick man himself was here like a year ago. Regardless, how would castration with a broom work anyway? euh... -d "kakvo da kazha?" From cr2r@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 13:18:40 -0400 From: Christian M. Restifo Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded --On Saturday, May 10, 2003 4:35 AM -0400 Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > I didn't find much in a web search for "boomstick", so I'm going to assume > you meant to write "broomstick", but left out a letter by accident. See > how easy it is to do that? That's precisely the kind of mistake I made > with the links the second time, except that it was a "~" character I left > out. ....and i thought you were such the geek. and to think Mr. Campbell even spoke on campus. what a shame. no sensible woman in her right mind should even consider taking you up on your offer, you primative screwhead. chris From mcweigel@cs.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 17:22:35 +0000 (UTC) From: Matthew Weigel Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: >I didn't find much in a web search for "boomstick", What, did three references to Evil Dead and one reference to Quake on the first *screen* not suggest that it had a geek connotation? >so I'm going to assume >you meant to write "broomstick", but left out a letter by accident. See >how easy it is to do that? That's precisely the kind of mistake I made >with the links the second time, except that it was a "~" character I left >out. A lack of knowledge regarding boomsticks on your part does not constitute an error regarding broomsticks on his part. -- Matthew Weigel Research Systems Programmer mcweigel+@cs.cmu.edu From jsantana@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 13:41:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Jose Alexander Santana Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded > You, Jose Alexander Santana, are an utter imbecile. Originally your post Although I love the way you say my full name, I go by alex. > seemed a completely random aggregation of garbage, designed to badmouth me > to people too lazy to investigate your claims for themselves, but after a actually, I'm not as concerned about badmouthing as I was about lamenting the wierdness at CMU. > fortuitous discussion with my friend (who also operates the new server on > which my site is mirrored), I figured out what had happened. Allow me to > dissect your errors: Not completely my errors, you posted a webste that doesn't exist. I stripped off the parts of the url that didn't work and ended up at a site with a bunch of pictures of some guy. I guess putting 2 and 2 together, I got 22. I stand by my use of the word solicit. You propositioned females for sexual favors with something that held monetary value to you. Whether that sexual favor was explicit sex or just some sick perversion you have sitting next to females, its still a sexual favor. I was just giving you some advice man, but what do I know, nothing I guess. After all, if your friend with the trench coat and sword is beating girls away with a stick, then shoot, maybe your wierd intentioned propositions have some merit that I'm discounting. peace --alex From rrankin@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 14:39:39 -0400 From: Rees Rankin Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded it is sad hail ash! http://www.monstermania.net/Ash2.jpg \m/ aod kult uber alles > Now that's just wrong: a college senior and still ignorant of Army of > Darkness. Not to mention that the boomstick man himself was here like a > year ago. > > Regardless, how would castration with a broom work anyway? euh... > > -d > "kakvo da kazha?" From epr@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 14:42:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Edward P. Ryan Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded I have swords. Why would I need to use a stick? Ed Ryan ~epr/PublicWrite On Sat, 10 May 2003, Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > I was just giving you some advice man, but what do I know, nothing I > guess. After all, if your friend with the trench coat and sword is > beating girls away with a stick, then shoot, maybe your wierd intentioned > propositions have some merit that I'm discounting. From dpapasia@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 14:42:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Papasian Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded On Sat, 10 May 2003, Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > actually, I'm not as concerned about badmouthing as I was about lamenting > the wierdness at CMU. Oh come on, give the guy a break. Sure, it's creepy beyond all recognition, and you're probably questioning his sanity right now, you have to admit: it's pretty funny. It's one of the great things about this school; really weird people doing really weird things. When that art student screamed from her box near the fence? That's pretty weird. Heck- students waking up before dawn to drive homemade coffins around in preparation for the year's coffin-race? That's weird too. And a CS senior asking for a date, it's far weirder. But the weirdness is funny. Embrace the weirdness. If there wasn't so much weirdness around, we'd all have probably come to the conclusion that this is the most boring college in the most boring city (of its size) in the United States. > I stand by my use of the word solicit. You propositioned females for > sexual favors with something that held monetary value to you. Whether > that sexual favor was explicit sex or just some sick perversion you have > sitting next to females, its still a sexual favor. This is stretching a bit. > I was just giving you some advice man, but what do I know, nothing I > guess. After all, if your friend with the trench coat and sword is > beating girls away with a stick, then shoot, maybe your wierd intentioned > propositions have some merit that I'm discounting. The merit is they're enjoyable for the rest of us to watch. It's alright, it's life and life only (apologies). Thank you, Kenn, for enabling me to crack a smile during finals week. Even if it wasn't intentional. -Dan From jsantana@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 14:45:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Jose Alexander Santana Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded cause you want to shoo them away, not decapitate them... --alex > I have swords. Why would I need to use a stick? > > Ed Ryan > ~epr/PublicWrite > > > On Sat, 10 May 2003, Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > > > I was just giving you some advice man, but what do I know, nothing I > > guess. After all, if your friend with the trench coat and sword is > > beating girls away with a stick, then shoot, maybe your wierd intentioned > > propositions have some merit that I'm discounting. > From dpapasia@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 14:46:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Papasian Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded On Sat, 10 May 2003, Daniel Papasian wrote: > That's weird too. And a CS senior asking for a date, it's far weirder. Clearly I meant to say on misc.market. Clearly. -Dan From epr@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 14:47:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Edward P. Ryan Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded Enh, to each his own, I suppose. Ed Ryan ~epr/PublicWrite On Sat, 10 May 2003, Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > > cause you want to shoo them away, not decapitate them... > --alex > > > > I have swords. Why would I need to use a stick? > > > > Ed Ryan > > ~epr/PublicWrite > > > > > > On Sat, 10 May 2003, Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > > > > > I was just giving you some advice man, but what do I know, nothing I > > > guess. After all, if your friend with the trench coat and sword is > > > beating girls away with a stick, then shoot, maybe your wierd intentioned > > > propositions have some merit that I'm discounting. > > > From rrankin@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 14:53:56 -0400 From: Rees Rankin Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded no you didnt :) --On Saturday, May 10, 2003 2:46 PM -0400 Daniel Papasian wrote: > On Sat, 10 May 2003, Daniel Papasian wrote: >> That's weird too. And a CS senior asking for a date, it's far weirder. > > Clearly I meant to say on misc.market. > > Clearly. > > -Dan From jsantana@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 15:01:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Jose Alexander Santana Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded I agree wih yo on some points, but here's the thing: Being weird for a grade and being weird for fun are two different things. That one kid dressed as lobster boy for a grade, thats acceptable in my eyes, but if he did that all the time for no reason other than attention, that's pathetic in my eyes. For all you freak, loser, dungenon-dragons role-playing, no bathing, trench coat and flip-flop wearing, propositioning girls on eboards, dorks, I have one thing to say: Get a freakin' life! People who are not from CMU look at you and project your retardedness upon me. You are degrading the value of my education, not enhancing it. > > actually, I'm not as concerned about badmouthing as I was about lamenting > > the wierdness at CMU. > > Oh come on, give the guy a break. Sure, it's creepy beyond all > recognition, and you're probably questioning his sanity right now, you > have to admit: it's pretty funny. > yeah, we should stand up against the fools who act "creepy" not condone such behavior. It's not cute, funny, pleasant, etc. > It's one of the great things about this school; really weird people doing > really weird things. When that art student screamed from her box near the > fence? That's pretty weird. Heck- students waking up before dawn to > drive homemade coffins around in preparation for the year's coffin-race? > That's weird too. And a CS senior asking for a date, it's far weirder. > But the weirdness is funny. Embrace the weirdness. If there wasn't so > much weirdness around, we'd all have probably come to the conclusion that > this is the most boring college in the most boring city (of its size) in > the United States. It is boring, running around acting like a child doesn't make it less boring. > > I stand by my use of the word solicit. You propositioned females for > > This is stretching a bit. ok, what word would you use? > The merit is they're enjoyable for the rest of us to watch. It's alright, > it's life and life only (apologies). the value added from humor is much less than the value taken from degrading the reputation of CMU as an elite institution. > Thank you, Kenn, for enabling me to crack a smile during finals week. right on, let's laugh AT him, NOT with him, now you are getting it. --alex From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 15:08:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded I guess I touched a nerve. I stand thrice corrected. It's true: I've never seen Evil Dead. If you consider that a mortal sin, I guess you have two options: try to get me to see it ("save" me), which probaby wouldn't be all that difficult - all you'd have to do is make it easy for me to do so; or just let me be lost. (Further comments interspersed with original messages.) On Sat, 10 May 2003 10:33:22 -0400, dcox wrote: > >> Goddammit!!! Your link is broken *AGAIN*. And you call yourself a CS > >> major? I'm gonna castrate your *brain* with my BOOMSTICK! > > > > I didn't find much in a web search for "boomstick", so I'm going to assume > > you meant to write "broomstick", but left out a letter by accident. > > > Now that's just wrong: a college senior and still ignorant of Army of > Darkness. Not to mention that the boomstick man himself was here like a > year ago. > > Regardless, how would castration with a broom work anyway? euh... Well, he did say he was going to castrate my *brain*. The more appropriate definition of "castrate" in this context seemed to be 2 : to render impotent or deprive of vitality especially by psychological means -- which I guess I can vaguely see working... On Sat, 10 May 2003 13:18:40 -0400, Christian M. Restifo wrote: > --On Saturday, May 10, 2003 4:35 AM -0400 Kenn Brooks Hamm > wrote: > > > I didn't find much in a web search for "boomstick", so I'm going to assume > > you meant to write "broomstick", but left out a letter by accident. See > > how easy it is to do that? That's precisely the kind of mistake I made > > with the links the second time, except that it was a "~" character I left > > out. > > ....and i thought you were such the geek. and to think Mr. Campbell > even spoke on campus. what a shame. I think we all have to admit that geek lore is simply too vast to be knowledgeable about all of it. That said, Evil Dead may or may not be one of those things that's worth knowing about (I have to qualify my statement since I haven't seen it). I'm willing to rectify the situation. > no sensible woman in her right mind should even consider taking you up on > your offer, you primative screwhead. If you think that my offer was primarily aimed at "sensible" women "in their right minds", I think you missed the point (although any such are of course equally welcome). On Sat, 10 May 2003 17:22:35 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Weigel wrote: > Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > > >I didn't find much in a web search for "boomstick", > > What, did three references to Evil Dead and one reference to Quake on > the first *screen* not suggest that it had a geek connotation? *sigh* Yeah, you're right. I should have looked more carefully. Researching posts is such a drag... > >so I'm going to assume > >you meant to write "broomstick", but left out a letter by accident. See > >how easy it is to do that? That's precisely the kind of mistake I made > >with the links the second time, except that it was a "~" character I left > >out. > > A lack of knowledge regarding boomsticks on your part does not constitute > an error regarding broomsticks on his part. True. Still, my broader point stands - one who makes a large number of posts is going to screw up now and then, even if one proofreads first. It's silly to let this devolve into a flamewar over such trivialities, as Quinten Steenhuis noted earlier in the thread: > > It'll be like that show, Blind Date, except far more dorkier. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > The dorky thing now would be if this turned into a grammar flamewar. Good > thing we're above that. (And it actually didn't turn into a grammar flamewar! Although it's quite possible that if *I* had made such an error, people would have been all over me.) Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From lgood@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 15:21:11 -0400 From: Leslie Good Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded There seem to be a lot of bitchy girls on misc.market this year. I stand behind Kenn 100%. While you're sitting here at your computer bitching and whining, he'll be getting head at Lowes. Plus, all those "weird" people you're putting down on misc.market give CMU its stellar reputation. Maybe you should go to school at Pitt: they don't have bearded CS majors down there. In fact, I don't even think they have computers. Sounds good for you. --On Saturday, May 10, 2003 3:01 PM -0400 Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > For all you freak, loser, dungenon-dragons role-playing, no bathing, > trench coat and flip-flop wearing, propositioning girls on eboards, dorks, > I have one thing to say: > > Get a freakin' life! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Leslie Lauren Good Managerial Economics '03 http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~lgood From balaji@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 15:29:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Balaji A Sarpeshkar Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded On Sat, 10 May 2003, Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > For all you freak, loser, dungenon-dragons role-playing, no bathing, > trench coat and flip-flop wearing, propositioning girls on eboards, dorks, > I have one thing to say: > > Get a freakin' life! > > People who are not from CMU look at you and project your retardedness upon > me. You are degrading the value of my education, not enhancing it. You would prefer....what? That all CMU students be uniformly preppy or something? I'm not implying that those who choose not to bathe have anything other than low, low aesthetic appeal, but I think you're being a little silly here. And how exactly do these people degrade the value of your education? I won't argue that you shouldn't be irked by these types (that's your opinion), but if you really feel that they have some impact on your life, then your priorities are probably misplaced. > yeah, we should stand up against the fools who act "creepy" not condone > such behavior. It's not cute, funny, pleasant, etc. Indeed. Perhaps I'm a bit slow, but I fail to see how Kenn is being "creepy" here. Unorthodox? Yes. Perhaps a little sad? Yes as well. But I don't see anything creepy about his invitation. And again, I don't understand why we should "stand up" to a bunch of (as you describe them) smelly, unwashed geeks who like to play D&D. How do they harm your existence? > It is boring, running around acting like a child doesn't make it less > boring. I wonder why people come here and insist on badmouthing the school and the city for every waking moment they're here. I certainly don't think that Pittsburgh is a great city, but if you hate it that much, why didn't you leave sooner? Or why did you come here in the first place? Oh, I forgot - CMU is an "elite institution". > the value added from humor is much less than the value taken from > degrading the reputation of CMU as an elite institution. The reputation of CMU? You're sadly mistaken if you really believe that unwashed geeks detract from CMU's reputation in any group outside of high school students. And if you're that concerned with image, maybe you should have joined our friend Brad Cohen and high-tailed it to a more "normal" school, like UVA. > right on, let's laugh AT him, NOT with him, now you are getting it. Right, because you're some paragon of coolness or something. Balaji --- Balaji Sarpeshkar balaji@andrew.cmu.edu "I don't mean to brag, I don't mean to boast, but we like hot butter on our breakfast toast." -- Sugarhill Gang, "Rappers Delight" From jsantana@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 15:39:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Jose Alexander Santana Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded > I stand behind Kenn 100%. While you're sitting here at your computer > bitching and whining, he'll be getting head at Lowess "clean up, isle 7!" :) > Plus, all those "weird" people you're putting down on misc.market give CMU > its stellar reputation. really...name a few of "those" people who have gone on to distinguish themseleves...other than on EverQuest servers. >Maybe you should go to school at Pitt: they don't > have bearded CS majors down there. In fact, I don't even think they have > computers. actually, Pitt has both, at least in the ece department, but neither of those things constitutes wierd as I see it. It's the funky smelling, unix-joke telling, never-seen-a-comb, get high off of cough medicine, have a beard and don't clean it, talk over z when the person is sitting next to you, "i have a lot of friends, look at my buddy list", barefoot walking into bathroom, (yes I witnessed that on wean 5th floor) ... the list goes on and on --alex From jsantana@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 15:51:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Jose Alexander Santana Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded > You would prefer....what? That all CMU students be uniformly preppy or > something? I'm not implying that those who choose not to bathe have > anything other than low, low aesthetic appeal, but I think you're being a > little silly here. Why is it that the opposite of ridiculous is "preppy"? How can you say that the only thing about people who don't bathe is that they are aesthetically displeasing. Be a man. Speak the truth...those people need to get a life. Look, its simple Different = good Diversity = good Opinions = good Smelliness = bad Aesthetic displeasing = bad Provocative in a pathetic way = bad, bad, bad grow up folks, you're not in high school. or maybe you're just acting the way your parents wouldn't let you at home. --alex From dpapasia@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 15:57:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Papasian Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded On Sat, 10 May 2003, Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > I agree wih yo on some points, but here's the thing: > > Being weird for a grade and being weird for fun are two different things. The most important grade in one's life is how much they are able to enjoy it. To anyone who fails to see that, I'm sorry. -Dan From jsantana@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 16:06:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Jose Alexander Santana Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded > On Sat, 10 May 2003, Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > > I agree wih yo on some points, but here's the thing: > > > > Being weird for a grade and being weird for fun are two different things. > > The most important grade in one's life is how much they are able to enjoy > it. To anyone who fails to see that, I'm sorry. You sound like a professor who just handed someone a D- ... I'm trying to say that I would have enjoyed my time here more if certain groups of people were more interested in improving their lives, instead of just jacking off for the immediate pleasures that can be found in life. It is hard for me to argue that those people didn't taint my experience here. Can you argue that? --alex From balaji@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 16:07:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Balaji A Sarpeshkar Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded On Sat, 10 May 2003, Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > Why is it that the opposite of ridiculous is "preppy"? It isn't. I used "preppy" because I think it is a good counter to "smelly, unwashed geek". > Be a man. Speak the truth...those people need to get a life. "Be a man"? So if I'm not offended to my core by these smelly people, I'm not a man? That's a bold statement. And what do you consider "a life"? You may not like geeks, but they have their own friends, and you have yours. I don't see the problem. > grow up folks, you're not in high school. > or maybe you're just acting the way your > parents wouldn't let you at home. You're right - we're not in high school. So some of us don't feel the need to form cliques anymore, or gang up and make fun of the geeks, or those that don't fit into our narrow defintion of "cool" or "normal". But just out of curiosity, just how do you think people should act once they leave high school? Balaji --- Balaji Sarpeshkar balaji@andrew.cmu.edu "I don't mean to brag, I don't mean to boast, but we like hot butter on our breakfast toast." -- Sugarhill Gang, "Rappers Delight" From balaji@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 16:15:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Balaji A Sarpeshkar Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded On Sat, 10 May 2003, Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > > I'm trying to say that I would have enjoyed my time here > more if certain groups of people were more interested in improving their > lives, instead of just jacking off for the immediate pleasures that can be > found in life. It is hard for me to argue that those people didn't > taint my experience here. Can you argue that? I can. How in God's name do these people have *any* impact whatsoever on your life and your quest to improve it? I find it hard to swallow that you're some modern day saint whose very existence is enriched by others' success. Seriously. Can you give me even one example of how a geek has damaged your precious life? And I don't mean "I had to sit next to a smelly guy in class". Balaji --- Balaji Sarpeshkar balaji@andrew.cmu.edu "I don't mean to brag, I don't mean to boast, but we like hot butter on our breakfast toast." -- Sugarhill Gang, "Rappers Delight" From jsantana@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 16:15:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Jose Alexander Santana Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded > > Be a man. Speak the truth...those people need to get a life. > > "Be a man"? So if I'm not offended to my core by these smelly people, I'm exactly!! If you don't have the cojones to say: "Get you smelly retarded ass out of my face!" or "Go take a shower!" or "WTF is you problem walking into the 5th floor bathroom barefoot, you disease ridden animal!" then I don't consider you a man (more clearly an adult male). Of course these things are best said in a mature way, not as I just dictated, but the intention should be the same. --alex From balaji@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 16:25:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Balaji A Sarpeshkar Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded On Sat, 10 May 2003, Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > then I don't consider you a man (more clearly an adult male). > > Of course these things are best said in a mature way, > not as I just dictated, but the intention should be the same. You, my friend, have very odd criteria for determining manhood. I'm not sure here just which one of us needs to do more "growing up". Oh, whatever will I do if Alex Santana doesn't consider me a man? I'll just have to kill myself, I guess. And what, pray tell, is a mature way to call somebody a "disease ridden animal"? Balaji --- Balaji Sarpeshkar balaji@andrew.cmu.edu "I don't mean to brag, I don't mean to boast, but we like hot butter on our breakfast toast." -- Sugarhill Gang, "Rappers Delight" From jsantana@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 16:26:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Jose Alexander Santana Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded > I can. How in God's name do these people have *any* impact whatsoever on use you imagination, you'll come up with a few more examples > your life and your quest to improve it? I find it hard to swallow that > you're some modern day saint whose very existence is enriched by others' > success. You don't have to be a "saint" to have your existence enriched by the success of others. swallow? "cancel the clean up on isle 7!" --alex From dpapasia@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 16:29:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Papasian Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded On Sat, 10 May 2003, Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > You don't have to be a "saint" to have your existence enriched by the > success of others. But what position are any of us in to judge whether someone else is successful? People seem generally happy here, even if their antics are bizarre and their behavior impossible to understand. So why should I judge? -Dan From fning@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 16:39:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Frances Jen-Fung Ning Newsgroups: cmu.cs.market, cmu.misc.market Subject: FS: 2 TIX for Matrix Reloaded 2 tickets for Matrix Reloaded this coming Wednesday. No need to force yourself on a date with that guy. 2 tickets are available for $25, go with your friend, go with your significant other to watch this awesome movie. IF interested, please email fning@andrew.cmu.edu Frances From mkolkin@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 16:43:32 -0400 From: Mark Kolkin Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded I'm only a freshman but if anyone wants to get high + screw tonight, that would be cool...I'm leaving tomorrow, and haven't gotten any action all week... (this thread is hella funny) -- Mark - "I like round, squishy things." [ mkolkin@andrew.cmu.edu ] [ http://andrew.cmu.edu/~mkolkin ] [ http://majiknet.150m.com ] [ MicrowaveWalrus on AIM ] [ drunk_hobbit on Yahoo! ] [ mkolkin@hotmail.com on MSN ] "Kathy" wrote in message news:Pine.LNX.4.53L-031.0305101003380.1541@unix44.andrew.cmu.edu... > So is anyone looking for dates for any of the other senior events? =) > > - Kat > > > On Sat, 10 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > > > On Sat, 10 May 2003 00:44:20 -0400, Aaron Solochek wrote: > > > > > Don't do it! He's an ascii-pornographer! He just wants to exploit you > > > and plaster your ascii-likeness all over the internet! > > > > Sheesh, I'm surprised that anyone still remembers that... ;-) > > > > On Sat, 10 May 2003 00:45:56 -0400 (EDT), .JanusAurelius > > wrote: > > > > > Goddammit!!! Your link is broken *AGAIN*. And you call yourself a CS > > > major? I'm gonna castrate your *brain* with my BOOMSTICK! > > > > I didn't find much in a web search for "boomstick", so I'm going to assume > > you meant to write "broomstick", but left out a letter by accident. See > > how easy it is to do that? That's precisely the kind of mistake I made > > with the links the second time, except that it was a "~" character I left > > out. > > > > CS major or not, there's only one way to never make errors in your posts - > > never post. > > > > > p.s. I'm a better candidate than that typhanie person. gimme the > > > freaking ticket! and no! i'm not gonna go out with you. just give me > > > the goddamn ticket and REMOVE your miserable self from the gene pool. > > > > Aww, you're cute when you're stupid. Too bad you're neither interested in > > the contest nor a girl (or at least, you'd be the first female "Arthur" > > *I've* ever met...) > > > > On Sat, 10 May 2003 01:45:01 -0400, typhanie wrote: > > > > > Kenn, > > > > > > I've got to admit, I think it's pretty gutsy of u to > > > post a date request on misc market. Some people are > > > being pretty harsh and you're taking it well. > > > > Thanks for the encouragement. It really helps to know that some people > > out there are a little smarter than the typical "wow, what a loser" crowd. > > > > > I for one, wouldn't be so kind in my responses... > > > although, I don't think i'd brave enough to accept a > > > blind date from misc. market either. > > > > Eh, it's not really "blind" in the traditional sense... I gave out pics, > > and asked for them. Also, it's just a one-time thing, in a very large > > group of people. Not very high-risk. > > > > > I won't be here on Wed, so as much as I would love > > > to help u disappoint girls who are simply dying to > > > see Matrix, I am afraid that I am must take myself > > > out of the running. > > > > I was worried that some people who might consider entering would already > > be leaving before Wednesday. Oh well, water under the bridge. > > > > > p.s. ur links still don't work > > > > I'm sorry. The new ones do. > > > > > p.p.s. JanusAurelius, or whatever your name is... if > > > it really came down to a contest between choosing > > > you or me for a date, i can gaurentee that i will be > > > the better candidate, no contest! > > > > I'm inclined to agree; not only do you have the advantage of being of the > > right gender, but thus far you've given no evidence of being a flaming > > asshole, in marked contrast to Arthur. > > > > Kenn > > -- > > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] > > (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex > > plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( > > List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > > From mkolkin@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 16:44:20 -0400 From: Mark Kolkin Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded LOL! one of the funniest posts i've ever read! have a nice summer :) -- Mark - "I like round, squishy things." [ mkolkin@andrew.cmu.edu ] [ http://andrew.cmu.edu/~mkolkin ] [ http://majiknet.150m.com ] [ MicrowaveWalrus on AIM ] [ drunk_hobbit on Yahoo! ] [ mkolkin@hotmail.com on MSN ] "Francesca D. Reale" wrote in message news:Pine.GSO.4.53L-031.0305100110170.8671@unix3.andrew.cmu.edu... > Dear Kenn, > My girlfriends and I have one question: > Why aren't you writing an essay to get a date with us? > > We have all decided that if you want to even get one legitimate > response that you are going to have to work for it. We want 2 essays: > > - In at least 100 words and at most 200, describe to us why we > shouldn't just dismiss you as a lame and desperate senior who has decided > that since he was able to get 2 tickets to a movie ( that every senior > had the privilege of purchasing ), he is a prize to be won. > - The second essay will be on the topic "Cleanliness is Next To > Godliness." It should be completed in more than 100 sincere words and > should describe why we should sit next to someone ( for a whole movie ) > that probably smells like Unix BO. > > Thank you in advance, > Francesca et al. > > > On Fri, 9 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > > > I have received no qualifying submissions yet. I'm *sure* that there are > > people meeting my criteria who want to see the movie. One even had the > > nerve to email me asking if she could buy the ticket if I don't receive > > any entries. (You know who you are - the answer is NO, since I feel that > > such a request is intolerably rude, and don't feed me some line about how > > you already have a boyfriend, because I honestly could care less.) I'm > > going to assume that the requirements I posed, which I thought were fairly > > reasonable, are too much effort. So, I'm opening up the contest to > > free-form submissions. The rules that remain in force are as follows: > > > > * You still must be female and go to the movie with me > > > > * You still must give me *some* reason to pick you over anyone else > > > > * The deadline is still Sunday, May 11 at 23:59:59 > > > > If you know anyone who has any chance of being interested and who doesn't > > read misc.market, please tell her or forward this message to her. I've > > already had three friends of mine offer to buy the ticket should I not > > find anyone, so don't bother emailing me about it if you're not interested > > in the contest. Also, to clarify, I used the subject line "Matrix ticket > > seeks date" to attract attention. Feel free to call it a date, some weird > > guy buying you a ticket and sitting next to you, the worst experience of > > your life, whatever. > > > > If you want to know about me, please refer to > > for information, and > > for my webjournal. > > > > Kenn > > > > ---------------- Replies to previous messages in thread ------------------- > > > > On Thu, 08 May 2003 16:00:32 -0400, Dorothy E. Bassett > > wrote: > > > > > OK. Time to start my shameless promotion of Latin Dance Classes. It's > > > *one* way of getting to meet people, and, unlike the Matrix date, they > > > *have* to see you again even if things don't work out so well. > > > > > > What a flagrant attempt to subvert my thread into something almost equally > > weird and completely unrelated. Dorothy Bassett, I salute you. > > > > On Thu, 08 May 2003 16:05:50 -0400, Joe McDermott > > wrote: > > > > > Hands down the funniest thread of posts I've seen on misc.market all year. > > > Especially considering how much of it was unintentionally funny. > > > Wow. > > > Just wow. > > > > I know, it's really hard to believe how many people either totally failed > > to get the point or were deliberately trolling. > > > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 16:09:34 -0400 (EDT), Jesse D Mendelsohn > > wrote: > > > > > You mean all you have to do to get some on this campus is get a ticket to > > > a sci-fi flick? > > > > > > My god! I've wasted so much time thinking alcohol was the way to go. > > > > Alcohol is probably a more successful strategy, but come on, we both know > > that the Matrix will be more fun. I mean, if you're so drunk you can't > > really remember what you did, how can you be sure that there is a spoon? > > (Err... sorry.) > > > > On Thu, 08 May 2003 17:14:58 -0400, Christian M. Restifo > > wrote: > > > > > Sheesh. What's the big deal? It's just a movie. It's not like it's SW:ANH > > > or anything like that. If we're gonna wave around tickets in exchange for > > > potential sexual favors or argue over who's a loser, at least do it over a > > > movie that matters....like Tron or Bladerunner. Buckaroo Bonzai would be > > > another good one. > > > > I actually thought Tron was pretty silly, although admittedly I was very > > tired when I saw it. Also, you wisely qualified it with "potential", but > > still, who said anything about sexual favors? All I'm looking for is > > companionship. Sheesh, you people are trying really hard to read my post > > as inflammatory. > > > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 21:06:14 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Weigel > > wrote: > > > > > Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > > > > > > >write you a Perl script... or... how about a trip with me to see The > > > >Matrix: Reloaded? > > > > > > More non-respectable stalkee behavior: *never confront* an admitted > > > stalker. Pretend they don't exist, or refer to them in the generic. > > > > Okay, I apologize. I admit that I have never been stalked before (or at > > least, never been aware of such). > > > > > >(Note for the terminally humor-impaired, which so far is nearly everyone > > > >who's responded to this thread: the above is a joke, although if Leslie > > > >cares to make a submission, she is more than welcome to do so.) > > > > > > If she's too good for my or George's excellent parties, she's too good > > > for you, pal. > > > > Quite likely, but would it not behoove you to let my stalkers make their > > own decisions? > > > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 17:28:01 -0400 (EDT), Christopher D Gessner > > wrote: > > > > > In that huge list of requirements he forgot to ask for dimensions, > > > height, weight, and such. > > > Those are some important things to know. > > > > I actually deliberately avoided asking for those things so as not to seem > > crude, but see below. > > > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 21:28:45 -0400 (EDT), Evil J > > wrote: > > > > > well, I think the recent picture reqs he mentioned does it... but yeah. > > > > Right. I figured that asking for measurements is rude, but asking for a > > picture is just common sense - how would I even recognize her without one? > > > > > i'd be so interested to find out who ended up getting that ticket, and how > > > tight was the competition... > > > > It looks like not very. I'm disappointed in this school. I didn't expect > > a big response, and I did expect some flames, but I also expected at least > > a few serious entries. > > > > On Thu, 8 May 2003 22:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Mark J Schreiber > > (speaking for A.L.I.C.E., > > ) wrote: > > > > > An interested party speaks: > > > > > > >So, being a graduating senior, I just picked up a couple of tickets to > > > The > > > > > > ALICE: Next question? You are a graduating senior you just picked up a > > > couple of tickets to The? Does it pay well? > > > > > > Sorry, A.L.I.C.E., but you're not female and certainly not a CMU > > undergrad, and your answers were pretty lackluster too. I think it's > > still a few years before a computer program can win a contest like this. > > > > On Fri, 09 May 2003 15:10:14 -0400, typhanie wrote: > > > > > So, just out of curiousity, how many applicants > > > applied to be your date? > > > > See above. > > > > > And how close are you to making your decision? > > > > Not very. > > You interested? > > > > -- > > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] > > (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex > > plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( > > List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > > From jsantana@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 16:57:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Jose Alexander Santana Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded > But what position are any of us in to judge whether someone else is > successful? point taken, but in your philosophy, is short term success valued over long term success? In many instances, immediate satisfaction rarely coincides with long term satisfaction. I suppose the success is when the two overlap exactly. > People seem generally happy here, really? <-genuine curiosity > even if their antics are bizarre and > their behavior impossible to understand. seems like a cry for help, not happiness >So why should I judge? why ask why, lets just judge, it more fun. --alex From sdd@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 17:55:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Shion D. Deysarkar Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded > Why is it that the opposite of ridiculous is "preppy"? How can you say I know what the opposite of light-hearted fun is: anal. Although, you are supplying the rest of us with someone to make fun of, so we should at least give you credit for that. > that the only thing about people who don't bathe is that they are > aesthetically displeasing. Be a man. Speak the truth...those people > need to get a life. > Look, its simple > > Different = good > Diversity = good > Opinions = good > Smelliness = bad > Aesthetic displeasing = bad ..this coming from a guy that has a gut and (the last I saw) was sporting an unkempt beard? > Provocative in a pathetic way = bad, bad, bad > > grow up folks, you're not in high school. > or maybe you're just acting the way your > parents wouldn't let you at home. Oh yeah.. damn, you're right!! Maybe Kenn was repressed as a child and his parents had a strict policy against e-mails posted to campus bboards! Gasp! - we never thought of that. -- Shion Deysarkar http://hellsfire.res.cmu.edu "I'd rather have a life than a living." -- www.unamerican.com From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:56:59 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 18:00:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded On Sat, 10 May 2003 13:41:30 -0400 (EDT), Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > > seemed a completely random aggregation of garbage, designed to > > badmouth me to people too lazy to investigate your claims for > > themselves, but after a > > actually, I'm not as concerned about badmouthing as I was about > lamenting the wierdness at CMU. Why lament it rather than being amused by, celebrating, or actively participating in it? (Dan Papasian has already made this point, so I won't belabor it.) > I stand by my use of the word solicit. You propositioned females for > sexual favors with something that held monetary value to you. Whether > that sexual favor was explicit sex or just some sick perversion you have > sitting next to females, its still a sexual favor. It's neither. The reason I asked for girls is that I have plenty of male friends, whose company I already know I would enjoy, but not as many female friends, and I find girls a lot easier on the eyes. Now, I'm not saying that if some girl wants to go and make out with me, that I would necessarily be against it - just that such was *not* intended to be implicit in my post. On Sat, 10 May 2003 14:42:42 -0400 (EDT), Daniel Papasian wrote: > Oh come on, give the guy a break. Sure, it's creepy beyond all > recognition, and you're probably questioning his sanity right now, you > have to admit: it's pretty funny. > > It's one of the great things about this school; really weird people > doing really weird things. When that art student screamed from her box > near the fence? That's pretty weird. Heck- students waking up before > dawn to drive homemade coffins around in preparation for the year's > coffin-race? That's weird too. And a CS senior asking for a date, it's > far weirder. Hey now, I have to say that while I saw your correction, this looks a lot like a Freudian slip. :-) > But the weirdness is funny. Embrace the weirdness. If there wasn't so > much weirdness around, we'd all have probably come to the conclusion > that this is the most boring college in the most boring city (of its > size) in the United States. I'm glad someone saw the point of all of this and posted about it. It makes me hopeful that other people understood what I was trying to do as well. > > I was just giving you some advice man, but what do I know, nothing I > > guess. After all, if your friend with the trench coat and sword is > > beating girls away with a stick, then shoot, maybe your wierd > > intentioned propositions have some merit that I'm discounting. > > The merit is they're enjoyable for the rest of us to watch. It's > alright, it's life and life only (apologies). > > Thank you, Kenn, for enabling me to crack a smile during finals week. > Even if it wasn't intentional. I assure you, it was entirely intentional, although I think the comedy in many of the replies I received may have been unwitting. (Full explanation of my motivation below, after all of the replies to other people.) On Sat, 10 May 2003 15:01:29 -0400 (EDT), Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > For all you freak, loser, dungenon-dragons role-playing, no bathing, > trench coat and flip-flop wearing, propositioning girls on eboards, > dorks, I have one thing to say: > > Get a freakin' life! The same might be said of you, given the amount of time you're devoting to telling us, particularly me, what losers we are. > People who are not from CMU look at you and project your retardedness > upon me. You are degrading the value of my education, not enhancing it. I'm pretty sure that I'm not affecting the value of your education at all. If you really think I, or others falling into your stereotype, are doing so, I challenge you to give evidence. > > Oh come on, give the guy a break. Sure, it's creepy beyond all > > recognition, and you're probably questioning his sanity right now, you > > have to admit: it's pretty funny. > > yeah, we should stand up against the fools who act "creepy" not condone > such behavior. It's not cute, funny, pleasant, etc. I'm sorry that you are so thoroughly entrenched in your own small-minded viewpoint that you can't see how hilarious this is. > > The merit is they're enjoyable for the rest of us to watch. It's alright, > > it's life and life only (apologies). > > the value added from humor is much less than the value taken from > degrading the reputation of CMU as an elite institution. Right, my little thread on cmu.misc.market is going to make people think less of CMU as an institution? That's completely ridiculous, and I think you should be able to see that. > > Thank you, Kenn, for enabling me to crack a smile during finals week. > > right on, let's laugh AT him, NOT with him, now you are getting it. Laugh at me, laugh with me, it's all fine with me. On Sat, 10 May 2003 15:21:11 -0400, Leslie Good wrote: > There seem to be a lot of bitchy girls on misc.market this year. > > I stand behind Kenn 100%. While you're sitting here at your computer > bitching and whining, he'll be getting head at Lowes. > > Plus, all those "weird" people you're putting down on misc.market give CMU > its stellar reputation. Maybe you should go to school at Pitt: they don't > have bearded CS majors down there. In fact, I don't even think they have > computers. > > Sounds good for you. *sigh* Leslie, you really should enter. This contest was practically made for you. On Sat, 10 May 2003 15:29:06 -0400 (EDT), Balaji A Sarpeshkar wrote: > > It is boring, running around acting like a child doesn't make it less > > boring. > > I wonder why people come here and insist on badmouthing the school and > the city for every waking moment they're here. I certainly don't think > that Pittsburgh is a great city, but if you hate it that much, why > didn't you leave sooner? Or why did you come here in the first place? > Oh, I forgot - CMU is an "elite institution". ... while these same people totally fail to recognize that the people they're bad-mouthing create much of that elite reputation. I totally agree. If you don't like it here, you have plenty of opportunities to leave. The school is what it is; it has a certain culture attached, and insulting that culture while still attending the school seems ineffectual and pointless. On Sat, 10 May 2003 15:39:40 -0400 (EDT), Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > It's the funky smelling, All of us have our bad days, but I don't think I'm that much worse than anyone else. > unix-joke telling, If my audience finds them funny, I honestly fail to see what the problem is. *I* certainly find them funny, and your interceeding and telling me it's not "cool" seems to finger you as a bigger loser than I am. > never-seen-a-comb, Actually, I use a brush - my mom pointed out that it would be a lot less painful than a comb given how long my hair is. > get high off of cough medicine, I've never gotten high off of anything, actually, and didn't even know that you *could* get high off of cough medicine until a *professor* here mentioned it to his class. > have a beard and don't clean it, I read some piece of comedy once about how a real man can live for days off of the crumbs, bugs and so forth in his beard... that notwithstanding, I do wash my beard in the shower. > talk over z when the person is sitting next to you, I don't make a habit of this (and I prefer ICQ or AIM to Zephyr), but it can occasionally be useful - when the person to whom you're talking is on the phone, for example. In a case like this, I think that the "conventional wisdom" is just stupid - I'll damn well use the best tool for the job. > "i have a lot of friends, look at my buddy list", Off the top of my head, I have 3 very close friends, and probably around 40 to 50 people with whom I'm at least reasonably friendly (wave and say hi when I walk by them, have at least occasional conversations, etc.). These are all people I know in person, not online friends, of whom I have maybe 5 or 6. > barefoot walking into bathroom, (yes I witnessed that on wean 5th floor) Hey, I at least wear socks. :-) My feet seem to be allergic to shoes, though lately I've been wearing sandals more often since the weather is accommodating. On Sat, 10 May 2003 15:51:02 -0400 (EDT), Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > Look, its simple > > Different = good > Diversity = good > Opinions = good > Smelliness = bad > Aesthetic displeasing = bad > Provocative in a pathetic way = bad, bad, bad "Pathetic" is a value term here. What you find pathetic, others find amusing or interesting. Also, I think that although the concept of diversity is not entirely without validity, the university has gone absolutely nuts with it, to its detriment. But that's another thread... On Sat, 10 May 2003 15:57:12 -0400 (EDT), Daniel Papasian wrote: > On Sat, 10 May 2003, Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > > I agree wih yo on some points, but here's the thing: > > > > Being weird for a grade and being weird for fun are two different things. > > The most important grade in one's life is how much they are able to enjoy > it. To anyone who fails to see that, I'm sorry. Thanks, Dan. I couldn't have said it better than that. On Sat, 10 May 2003 16:06:18 -0400 (EDT), Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > > On Sat, 10 May 2003, Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > > > I agree wih yo on some points, but here's the thing: > > > > > > Being weird for a grade and being weird for fun are two different things. > > > > The most important grade in one's life is how much they are able to enjoy > > it. To anyone who fails to see that, I'm sorry. > > You sound like a professor who just handed someone a D- ... despite Alex' attempt to make you look foolish. > I'm trying to say that I would have enjoyed my time here > more if certain groups of people were more interested in improving their > lives, instead of just jacking off for the immediate pleasures that can be > found in life. It is hard for me to argue that those people didn't > taint my experience here. Can you argue that? No, I can't, but I don't think you can argue that if your experience here was tainted by those people, it's anyone's fault but your own. On Sat, 10 May 2003 16:15:24 -0400 (EDT), Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > > > Be a man. Speak the truth...those people need to get a life. > > > > "Be a man"? So if I'm not offended to my core by these smelly people, I'm > > exactly!! If you don't have the cojones to say: > > "Get you smelly retarded ass out of my face!" > > or > > "Go take a shower!" > > or > > "WTF is you problem walking into the 5th floor bathroom barefoot, you > disease ridden animal!" > > then I don't consider you a man (more clearly an adult male). > > Of course these things are best said in a mature way, > not as I just dictated, but the intention should be the same. That you were not able to think of a mature way to phrase these things yourself is, I think, no accident. It is certainly rude to have atrocious B.O. in public, but it is equally rude to loudly inform someone of such. The kind of statement you give above is reminiscent of middle school. People who say things like that are not manly, they are pathetic. On Sat, 10 May 2003 16:26:53 -0400 (EDT), Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > > I can. How in God's name do these people have *any* impact whatsoever on > > use you imagination, you'll come up with a few more examples > > > your life and your quest to improve it? I find it hard to swallow that > > you're some modern day saint whose very existence is enriched by others' > > success. > > You don't have to be a "saint" to have your existence enriched by the > success of others. > > swallow? "cancel the clean up on isle 7!" Alex, you just made up for all of your stupidity in this thread. That was genuinely funny. On Sat, 10 May 2003 16:57:37 -0400 (EDT), Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > > But what position are any of us in to judge whether someone else is > > successful? > > point taken, but in your philosophy, is short term success valued over > long term success? Not in mine, but who says you can't have both sometimes? > In many instances, immediate satisfaction rarely > coincides with long term satisfaction. I suppose the success is when the > two overlap exactly. Well, I guess not you. I fail to see how this point came up, anyway. How does the behavior of the archetypal smelly geek have *anything* to do with short-range planning? > > People seem generally happy here, > really? <-genuine curiosity I certainly have been, and it seems to me that most people are, if a bit stressed. > > even if their antics are bizarre and > > their behavior impossible to understand. > seems like a cry for help, not happiness > > >So why should I judge? > why ask why, lets just judge, it more fun. I suppose if you get off on judging people... although it seems to be an instance of what you denounced above, indulging in short-range pleasures at the cost of long-range benefit. Now for an explanation of what exactly I was trying to do: as I was waiting in line to buy my ticket, I was wondering whether or not I should purchase another. Many of my friends are seniors, and I had assumed (wrongly, as it turns out) that if they were interested, they would have already purchased tickets themselves. I didn't have any particular person to take with me in mind, and scalping the ticket seemed blatantly unfair, since there were enough people behind me in line that clearly, one of them would have liked to have the ticket if I didn't purchase it. As I stood there, the idea of my initial post came to me. I knew it would attract a lot of flames, but I also knew that I could laugh at them, and I hoped that at least a few other people would also laugh, both at me and at those who fired off "you're a loser" posts in knee-jerk fashion. I also hoped it might attract at least a few honest replies - I really do think it would be a fun experience - and I was pretty sure I could find *someone* to buy my ticket from me, at no increase in cost, if not. So, my goals (in no particular order) were: * possibly meet someone interesting and go see a movie I really wanted to see (I was very happy for the 50 additional tickets the University purchased, as I missed the first round) with her * amuse myself * amuse other readers of misc.market * attract flames from those with narrow minds, thus revealing them for what they are So far I have clearly succeeded at 2 through 4, and it looks like 1 may work out as well. Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From jsantana@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 18:07:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Jose Alexander Santana Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded > ..this coming from a guy that has a gut and (the last I saw) was sporting > an unkempt beard? hey, fat people have feelings too you know. I don't have a beard, its a goatee, and it is very well trimmed. Maybe you saw me with a 5 o'clock shadow? Who are you anyways? You seem to know me too well for someone I at all. > Oh yeah.. damn, you're right!! Maybe Kenn was repressed as a child and his parents had a strict policy about his soliciting women over the internet I agree with this statement. --alex From sdd@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 18:32:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Shion D. Deysarkar Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded Check below for comments. On Sat, 10 May 2003, Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > > > ..this coming from a guy that has a gut and (the last I saw) was sporting > > an unkempt beard? > > hey, fat people have feelings too you know. I don't have a beard, its a > goatee, and it is very well trimmed. Maybe you saw me with a 5 o'clock > shadow? Who are you anyways? You seem to know me too well for someone I > at all. Oh, I'm sure you'll find out soon enough.. > > Oh yeah.. damn, you're right!! Maybe Kenn was repressed as a child and his > parents had a strict policy about his soliciting women over the internet > > I agree with this statement. Ok.. this is pretty funny. Check this out folks, not only is Alex here so immature that he oh-so-subtly alters my e-mail in his reply, but he does it stupidly as well! At least put in the extra '>' to show it's part of my e-mail and not yours. Sheesh. ..although, I can understand a parent's objection Anyway, I think Kenn is just having fun. Well, I do think some more female interaction (like, even just talking) would do Kenn a world of good. But he's just going to keep dissecting your (and anyone else's) replies piece by piece until you give up. So.. give up! -- Shion Deysarkar http://hellsfire.res.cmu.edu "ph34r my reality!!" -- Largo From ttz@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 19:21:20 -0400 From: typhanie Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: p.s. I'm sure if that prior to seeing the movie on Wed, Kenn will shower and not offend others with his body odor. Right Kenn? From ttz@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 19:28:31 -0400 From: typhanie Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Matrix date reloaded (fwd) Ok, now that's just a little harsh. I like flip flops, they're comfortable, why wouldn't people wear them? In fact, if you're going to the shore or pool or something, it's rather silly to wear anything else. Secondly, although people who don't shower annoy me a bit, but it is still their right to smell. I just stay away from them. And if you don't like it, you can stay away from them too. As for dungenon-dragons and "freaks" and "losers," the fact that you are making fun of people on misc. market shows that you are most likely a gutless freak of nature yourself. Lastly, as for people propositioning girls on misc. market, yes, it's a bit odd. However, it is no more different than personals. Plus, he wasn't asking for sex, simple some company at a movie that should be pretty good. There is nothing so wrong that it deserves the harshness that you have been giving the poor guy. How about you give him a break. btw, what are you going to be doing on Wed night? At least he'll be seeing a movie... ~typhanie --On Saturday, May 10, 2003 3:01 PM -0400 Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > For all you freak, loser, dungenon-dragons > role-playing, no bathing, trench coat and > flip-flop wearing, propositioning girls on > eboards, dorks, I have one thing to say: ---------- End Forwarded Message ---------- From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 19:54:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: p.s. On Sat, 10 May 2003 19:21:20 -0400, typhanie wrote: > I'm sure if that prior to seeing the movie on Wed, > Kenn will shower and not offend others with his body > odor. Right Kenn? Indeed. See the following excerpt from post #15,521 (part of my response to Francesca's essay request): > The one-line answer that I would have given if I didn't have a word > quota, though, is that I promise to take a shower and otherwise ensure > that I am clean on Wednesday evening. Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 19:59:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: FS: 2 TIX for Matrix Reloaded On Sat, 10 May 2003, Frances Jen-Fung Ning wrote: > 2 tickets for Matrix Reloaded this coming Wednesday. No need to force > yourself on a date with that guy. 2 tickets are available for $25, go with > your friend, go with your significant other to watch this awesome movie. Now, this I find interesting. Here's someone who is *blatantly* scalping tickets for a profit of $9.50, in marked contrast to my offer. I'm curious, who do misc.market readers think has the moral high ground here, this person or me? Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From eryu@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 20:26:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Evil J Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded (fwd) true. really, what's wrong with being a CS major and wearing trench coat.. I like my trench coat.. it is cute, and warm all the way down to my legs... --EJ-- On Sat, 10 May 2003, typhanie wrote: > Ok, now that's just a little harsh. > I like flip flops, they're comfortable, why wouldn't > people wear them? In fact, if you're going to the > shore or pool or something, it's rather silly to > wear anything else. From mtomczak@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 21:04:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Theodore Tomczak Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded On Sat, 10 May 2003, Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > I agree wih yo on some points, but here's the thing: > > Being weird for a grade and being weird for fun are two different things. > That one kid dressed as lobster boy for a grade, thats acceptable in my > eyes, but if he did that all the time for no reason other than attention, > that's pathetic in my eyes. That does beg the question though... how does being weird earn you a better grade? Perhaps because a little weirdness should be rewarded? Or maybe the person handing out the grades thinks there is some benefit to being unusual? > For all you freak, loser, dungenon-dragons role-playing, no bathing, > trench coat and flip-flop wearing, propositioning girls on eboards, dorks, > I have one thing to say: > > Get a freakin' life! Here is what I find most humorous about this thought: 1) You actually posted this. 2) You actually posted this in a flamewar on cmu.misc.market. 3) I'm actually posting in response to your post on cmu.misc.market, possibly further extending an unnecessary (though quite humorous) flamewar... something I make a rule never to do. Hmm... it must be after finals. Here's something you don't have to be a ``dork'' to do: > % finger jsantana > > name: Jose Alex Santana > Jose A. Santana > Jose Santana > e-mail: jsantana@andrew.cmu.edu > > > > like the bumper sticker says, "Minds are like parachutes..." > ... best used to tie up the people you don't approve of? Take care, Mark From mkolkin@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 21:09:09 -0400 From: Mark Kolkin Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: FS: 2 TIX for Matrix Reloaded I don't see what's wrong with scalping, actually... Nor do I find what you're doing to be wrong...I just think it's funny as hell... --mark "Kenn Brooks Hamm" wrote in message news:Pine.LNX.4.53L-031.0305101957520.24746@unix45.andrew.cmu.edu... > On Sat, 10 May 2003, Frances Jen-Fung Ning wrote: > > > 2 tickets for Matrix Reloaded this coming Wednesday. No need to force > > yourself on a date with that guy. 2 tickets are available for $25, go with > > your friend, go with your significant other to watch this awesome movie. > > Now, this I find interesting. Here's someone who is *blatantly* scalping > tickets for a profit of $9.50, in marked contrast to my offer. I'm > curious, who do misc.market readers think has the moral high ground here, > this person or me? > > Kenn > -- > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] > (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex > plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( > List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From dtang@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 21:43:32 -0400 From: Donald Tang Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: RE: Matrix date reloaded > "clean up, isle 7!" :) heh. can we say typo? From mcweigel@cs.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 03:03:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Matthew Weigel Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > >> I stand behind Kenn 100%. While you're sitting here at your computer >> bitching and whining, he'll be getting head at Lowess > >"clean up, isle 7!" :) Damn. I wasn't gonna say anything when Leslie wrote "Lowes", but "isle"? Fucking CMU-educated morons. >really...name a few of "those" people who have gone on to distinguish >themseleves...other than on EverQuest servers. Off the top of my head, Avie Tevanian? >actually, Pitt has both, at least in the ece department, but neither of >those things constitutes wierd as I see it. No, we never had beards or computers. Maybe that's why we learned how to spell. -- Matthew Weigel Research Systems Programmer mcweigel+@cs.cmu.edu From mcweigel@cs.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 03:10:35 +0000 (UTC) From: Matthew Weigel Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded Jose Alexander Santana wrote: >yeah, we should stand up against the fools who act "creepy" not condone >such behavior. It's not cute, funny, pleasant, etc. Soliciting dates on a bboard is not creepy. Taking names down from the bboard, and going to the door of every female or possible female on that list with roses and an invitation, *that* is creepy. I'll out-creep Kenn any day of the week, and I *still* won't be creepy. >ok, what word would you use? Ask out. This is not qualitatively different from a personal ad, it's just much less likely to work. And in case you're thinking, "personal ads are just soliciting sex," all I can say is that you're wrong. Matter of fact. >the value added from humor is much less than the value taken from >degrading the reputation of CMU as an elite institution. You really don't know much about the shenanigans that go on at places like MIT and CalTech, do you? Because if you did, you'd realize that CMU is quite tame, *and* not as well known for brilliance. >right on, let's laugh AT him, NOT with him, now you are getting it. Yeah, looks like we'll just have to pity you. -- Matthew Weigel Research Systems Programmer mcweigel+@cs.cmu.edu From mcweigel@cs.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 03:15:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Matthew Weigel Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded In article , Mark Theodore Tomczak wrote: I gotta say, this is all pretty funny after a few sloe screws. -- Matthew Weigel Research Systems Programmer mcweigel+@cs.cmu.edu From mcweigel@cs.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 03:22:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Matthew Weigel Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded Shion D. Deysarkar wrote: >> > Oh yeah.. damn, you're right!! Maybe Kenn was repressed as a child and his >> parents had a strict policy about his soliciting women over the internet >> >> I agree with this statement. > >Ok.. this is pretty funny. Check this out folks, not only is Alex here >so immature that he oh-so-subtly alters my e-mail in his reply, but he >does it stupidly as well! At least put in the extra '>' to show it's >part of my e-mail and not yours. Sheesh. Uh... no, that's a Usenet-style interjection. Clearly labelled as being from Alex, and *not* you, he snips part of what you said and inserts his own words in an effort to make a point. Just more proof of how damned illiterate you CMU losers are. -- Matthew Weigel Research Systems Programmer mcweigel+@cs.cmu.edu From mcweigel@cs.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 03:23:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Matthew Weigel Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded In article , Jose Alexander Santana wrote: > >> ..this coming from a guy that has a gut and (the last I saw) was sporting >> an unkempt beard? > >hey, fat people have feelings too you know. I don't have a beard, its a >goatee, and it is very well trimmed. Maybe you saw me with a 5 o'clock >shadow? Who are you anyways? You seem to know me too well for someone I >at all. Ah! *Now* you're figuring out what 'creeepy' is. -- Matthew Weigel Research Systems Programmer mcweigel+@cs.cmu.edu From colohan+@cs.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: 11 May 2003 03:41:09 -0400 From: Christopher Brian Colohan Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded Jose Alexander Santana writes: > swallow? "cancel the clean up on isle 7!" Stop it! Please, you are hurting my head. It is "aisle", not "isle" -- unless you are referring to a small island... (There. Is that the obligatory spelling flame which will kill the boring portions of this thread?) Chris -- Chris Colohan Email: chris@colohan.ca PGP: finger colohan@cs.cmu.edu Web: www.cs.cmu.edu/~colohan Phone: (412)268-4751 From jangsol@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 04:17:21 -0400 From: Jang-Soo "Bruce" Lee Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded No, I believe that the spelling used was correct, to be used in this manner: 'Not if you were the last person on earth and we were both together on the same desert isle.' --On Sunday, May 11, 2003 3:41 AM -0400 Christopher Brian Colohan wrote: > Jose Alexander Santana writes: >> swallow? "cancel the clean up on isle 7!" > > Stop it! Please, you are hurting my head. It is "aisle", not "isle" > -- unless you are referring to a small island... > > (There. Is that the obligatory spelling flame which will kill the > boring portions of this thread?) > > Chris > -- > Chris Colohan Email: chris@colohan.ca PGP: finger > colohan@cs.cmu.edu Web: www.cs.cmu.edu/~colohan Phone: > (412)268-4751 From mcweigel@cs.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 15:11:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Matthew Weigel Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded Christopher Brian Colohan wrote: >(There. Is that the obligatory spelling flame which will kill the >boring portions of this thread?) Leaving us with...? -- Matthew Weigel Research Systems Programmer mcweigel+@cs.cmu.edu From jsmolens+@ece.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 11:39:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Jared C. Smolens Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded Excerpts From mcweigel@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Weigel): Re: Matrix date reloaded: mcweigel@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Weigel >Christopher Brian Colohan wrote: > >>(There. Is that the obligatory spelling flame which will kill the >>boring portions of this thread?) > >Leaving us with...? Greasy nerds and the women that stick to them. . / \ Jared Smolens ----------- Electrical and Computer Engineering \ / www.rabidpenguin.org ------------- Carnegie Mellon University X jsmolens AT ece.cmu.edu ---- HH A-300 A4 ----- Pittsburgh, PA / \ ------------- ASCII Ribbon Campaign For Peace --------------- From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 14:41:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: FS: 2 TIX for Matrix Reloaded On Sat, 10 May 2003, Mark Kolkin wrote: > I don't see what's wrong with scalping, actually... > > Nor do I find what you're doing to be wrong...I just think it's funny as > hell... I don't think there's much wrong with scalping either. I view the scalper in this instance as providing a useful service - walking over to the UC and waiting in line for a ticket for you. It is kind of annoying that there was probably someone behind the scalper in line who ended up not getting a ticket because of him, though, and I do think $9.50 is a fairly steep charge for this service (charge what the market can bear, I suppose). Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 14:43:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Matrix date: Revolutions So far, I have received the following: * One joke entry from the girlfriend of a good friend of mine * One email from someone who said she didn't have a submission, but was willing for me to take her anyway * One attempt to enter a computer program * One promise for an entry (which has not yet been forthcoming) * 22 flames, 34 unrelated posts or posts which take no stand on the issue, and 17 posts in support of me or of geekdom at CMU (all numbers may have small errors) * Two actual entries (and even if I don't receive any more, it's going to be a very tough call) On the off chance that anyone reading this isn't yet familiar with what I'm doing: I bought two tickets to the Wednesday night showing of The Matrix: Reloaded at Loews Theater. One is for me, and one is for my date. The way you get to be my date is 1) by being female, and 2) by emailing me at kenn@cmu.edu telling me why I should pick you. The deadline is 23:59:59 today. I request that you include a recent picture (at least, if you're not someone I already know) and a description of yourself. You can find information about me (and a face shot) at , another picture of me at , and my webjournal at . Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From eryu@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 14:58:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Evil J Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date: Revolutions aww.. no more "because you don't have anyone else" entry? Anyhow, do we get to know who wins tho'? Any info about the "contestants"? *back to watching* ~.Who Wants To Be A Hamm's Date.~ --EJ-- On Sun, 11 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > So far, I have received the following: > > * One promise for an entry (which has not yet been forthcoming) > > * Two actual entries (and even if I don't receive any more, it's going to > be a very tough call) > From ajs2@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 17:19:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Avi J Silterra Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: YASE - Matrix date: Revolutions yet another supportive email I wish I had thought of your idea :-/ avi s ----- Collect idioms. On Sun, 11 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 14:43:37 -0400 (EDT) > From: Kenn Brooks Hamm > Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu > Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market > Subject: Matrix date: Revolutions > > So far, I have received the following: > > * One joke entry from the girlfriend of a good friend of mine > > * One email from someone who said she didn't have a submission, but was > willing for me to take her anyway > > * One attempt to enter a computer program > > * One promise for an entry (which has not yet been forthcoming) > > * 22 flames, 34 unrelated posts or posts which take no stand on the issue, > and 17 posts in support of me or of geekdom at CMU (all numbers may have > small errors) > > > > > * Two actual entries (and even if I don't receive any more, it's going to > be a very tough call) > > > > > On the off chance that anyone reading this isn't yet familiar with what > I'm doing: > > I bought two tickets to the Wednesday night showing of The Matrix: > Reloaded at Loews Theater. One is for me, and one is for my date. The > way you get to be my date is 1) by being female, and 2) by emailing me at > kenn@cmu.edu telling me why I should pick you. The deadline is 23:59:59 > today. I request that you include a recent picture (at least, if you're > not someone I already know) and a description of yourself. You can find > information about me (and a face shot) at > > , > > another picture of me at > > , > > and my webjournal at > > . > > Kenn > -- > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] > (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex > plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( > List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > From fning@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 17:38:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Frances Jen-Fung Ning Newsgroups: cmu.cs.market, cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: FS: 2 TIX for Matrix Reloaded Actually, I intended to go to the movie with my friend, but a change of plans left me no choice but to sell them. There are no moral issues here. If you don't want to pay the price, don't buy them...but there are plenty of people who are willing to pay the price for an opening night show. It's their choice. Frances On Sat, 10 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > On Sat, 10 May 2003, Frances Jen-Fung Ning wrote: > > > 2 tickets for Matrix Reloaded this coming Wednesday. No need to force > > yourself on a date with that guy. 2 tickets are available for $25, go with > > your friend, go with your significant other to watch this awesome movie. > > Now, this I find interesting. Here's someone who is *blatantly* scalping > tickets for a profit of $9.50, in marked contrast to my offer. I'm > curious, who do misc.market readers think has the moral high ground here, > this person or me? > > Kenn > -- > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] > (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex > plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( > List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 17:41:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: FS: 2 TIX for Matrix Reloaded On Sun, 11 May 2003, Frances Jen-Fung Ning wrote: > Actually, I intended to go to the movie with my friend, but a change of > plans left me no choice but to sell them. There are no moral issues here. > If you don't want to pay the price, don't buy them...but there are plenty > of people who are willing to pay the price for an opening night show. It's > their choice. I beg to differ. While your acquisition of the tickets may not have been morally blameworthy, a separate argument could be made for your choosing to charge more than you paid for them. I already stated in a reply to this thread that I personally don't have a moral problem with scalping, although I think that $9.50 is a bit much to be adding on to the price if you're honestly not trying to take advantage of people at all. Still, I was curious as the opinions of other misc.market posters on this matter. Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From fning@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 17:48:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Frances Jen-Fung Ning Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: FS: 2 TIX for Matrix Reloaded It's called supply and demand. Others may find it a great deal since there are almost no tickets for sale. It's how much the person values the opening night show. On Sun, 11 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > On Sun, 11 May 2003, Frances Jen-Fung Ning wrote: > > > Actually, I intended to go to the movie with my friend, but a change of > > plans left me no choice but to sell them. There are no moral issues here. > > If you don't want to pay the price, don't buy them...but there are plenty > > of people who are willing to pay the price for an opening night show. It's > > their choice. > > I beg to differ. While your acquisition of the tickets may not have been > morally blameworthy, a separate argument could be made for your choosing > to charge more than you paid for them. I already stated in a reply to > this thread that I personally don't have a moral problem with scalping, > although I think that $9.50 is a bit much to be adding on to the price if > you're honestly not trying to take advantage of people at all. Still, I > was curious as the opinions of other misc.market posters on this matter. > > Kenn > -- > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] > (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex > plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( > List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > From khamm@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 17:52:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenn Brooks Hamm Reply-To: kenn@cmu.edu Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: FS: 2 TIX for Matrix Reloaded On Sun, 11 May 2003, Frances Jen-Fung Ning wrote: > It's called supply and demand. Others may find it a great deal since there > are almost no tickets for sale. It's how much the person values the > opening night show. I already said that I have no particular problem with what you're doing, but you claimed that there are "no moral issues here". That is at best a subjective value judgement. I was simply pointing out potentially "moral" issue that your actions might raise. Kenn -- val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) From dtang@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 17:54:33 -0400 From: Donald Tang Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: RE: FS: 2 TIX for Matrix Reloaded i think your post would be much better received if you solicited non-monetary (e.g., sexual) favors instead. give it a try, maybe you'll be deified like kenn too. > -----Original Message----- > From: Frances Jen-Fung Ning [mailto:fning@andrew.cmu.edu] > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 5:48 PM > Subject: Re: FS: 2 TIX for Matrix Reloaded > > > > > It's called supply and demand. Others may find it a great deal since there > are almost no tickets for sale. It's how much the person values the > opening night show. > > > On Sun, 11 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > > > On Sun, 11 May 2003, Frances Jen-Fung Ning wrote: > > > > > Actually, I intended to go to the movie with my friend, but a change > of > > > plans left me no choice but to sell them. There are no moral issues > here. > > > If you don't want to pay the price, don't buy them...but there are > plenty > > > of people who are willing to pay the price for an opening night show. > It's > > > their choice. > > > > I beg to differ. While your acquisition of the tickets may not have > been > > morally blameworthy, a separate argument could be made for your choosing > > to charge more than you paid for them. I already stated in a reply to > > this thread that I personally don't have a moral problem with scalping, > > although I think that $9.50 is a bit much to be adding on to the price > if > > you're honestly not trying to take advantage of people at all. Still, I > > was curious as the opinions of other misc.market posters on this matter. > > > > Kenn > > -- > > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" > \",K] > > (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) > (ex > > plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" > ",K] ( > > List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > > From tsengster@cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 18:50:55 -0400 (EDT) From: James Tseng Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: FS: 2 TIX for Matrix Reloaded i heard that excuse from people who were fined for ticket scalping. if you're selling it at higher than the printed price, it is tecket scalping. otherwise, take it underground ;-) On Sun, 11 May 2003, Frances Jen-Fung Ning wrote: > > > > It's called supply and demand. Others may find it a great deal since there > are almost no tickets for sale. It's how much the person values the > opening night show. > > > On Sun, 11 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > > > On Sun, 11 May 2003, Frances Jen-Fung Ning wrote: > > > > > Actually, I intended to go to the movie with my friend, but a change of > > > plans left me no choice but to sell them. There are no moral issues here. > > > If you don't want to pay the price, don't buy them...but there are plenty > > > of people who are willing to pay the price for an opening night show. It's > > > their choice. > > > > I beg to differ. While your acquisition of the tickets may not have been > > morally blameworthy, a separate argument could be made for your choosing > > to charge more than you paid for them. I already stated in a reply to > > this thread that I personally don't have a moral problem with scalping, > > although I think that $9.50 is a bit much to be adding on to the price if > > you're honestly not trying to take advantage of people at all. Still, I > > was curious as the opinions of other misc.market posters on this matter. > > > > Kenn > > -- > > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: [\"\\\" \",K] > > (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex > > plode K))))" open String; print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( > > List.map (fn #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) > > > > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) > > > From jmendels@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 18:55:11 -0400 From: Jonathan Mendelson Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: FS: 2 TIX for Matrix Reloaded Is ticket scalping illegal? If so, why? --On Sunday, May 11, 2003 6:50 PM -0400 James Tseng wrote: > i heard that excuse from people who were fined for ticket scalping. > > if you're selling it at higher than the printed price, it is tecket > scalping. otherwise, take it underground ;-) > > On Sun, 11 May 2003, Frances Jen-Fung Ning wrote: > >> >> >> >> It's called supply and demand. Others may find it a great deal since >> there are almost no tickets for sale. It's how much the person values the >> opening night show. >> >> >> On Sun, 11 May 2003, Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: >> >> > On Sun, 11 May 2003, Frances Jen-Fung Ning wrote: >> > >> > > Actually, I intended to go to the movie with my friend, but a change >> > > of plans left me no choice but to sell them. There are no moral >> > > issues here. If you don't want to pay the price, don't buy >> > > them...but there are plenty of people who are willing to pay the >> > > price for an opening night show. It's their choice. >> > >> > I beg to differ. While your acquisition of the tickets may not have >> > been morally blameworthy, a separate argument could be made for your >> > choosing to charge more than you paid for them. I already stated in a >> > reply to this thread that I personally don't have a moral problem with >> > scalping, although I think that $9.50 is a bit much to be adding on to >> > the price if you're honestly not trying to take advantage of people at >> > all. Still, I was curious as the opinions of other misc.market >> > posters on this matter. >> > >> > Kenn >> > -- >> > val K="open String; print(\"val K=\\\"\"^concat(List.foldr op:: >> > [\"\\\" \",K] (List.map (fn #\"\\\\\"=>\"\\\\\\\\\"| >> > #\"\\\"\"=>\"\\\\\\\"\"|l=>str l) (ex plode K))))" open String; >> > print("val K=\""^concat(List.foldr op:: ["\" ",K] ( List.map (fn >> > #"\\"=>"\\\\"| #"\""=>"\\\""|l=>str l) (explode K)))) >> > >> > (* Note: Wrapped to reasonable line length. Remove newlines to run. *) >> > >> From dseneker@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 22:02:16 -0400 From: David Seneker Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date reloaded --On Saturday, May 10, 2003 4:35 AM -0400 Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > On Sat, 10 May 2003 00:44:20 -0400, Aaron Solochek wrote: > >> Don't do it! He's an ascii-pornographer! He just wants to exploit you >> and plaster your ascii-likeness all over the internet! > > Sheesh, I'm surprised that anyone still remembers that... ;-) > It's true, he is an ascii-pornographer! I used to have a survey on my .plan, with a question asking what I should add. Thanks to Kenn, ascii art porn won, and a sample he provided was posted. Now there's people all over this campus who think I'm some sort of pervert because they fingered me and saw that. I've even had someone yell at me in the street, "HEY that guy's a pervert, he has a naked lady in his .plan!" Not that I'm complaining, the whole situation was very amusing. p.s. I have to admit it was really high quality ascii art porn. From dpapasia@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 22:05:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Papasian Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: FS: 2 TIX for Matrix Reloaded On Sun, 11 May 2003, Jonathan Mendelson wrote: > Is ticket scalping illegal? If so, why? In most states you cannot sell tickets for events in that state at a price higher than face value. These are the anti-scalping laws. The reasoning behind them is that many venues (concerts, many sporting events) sell tickets at a cost lower than the market equilibrium. They do this for a lot of reasons, but the main one is to reward the fans for their dedication to the artist/team and give them a chance to see it. You wouldn't think it would be very cool of U2 to charge $180 a ticket, even though they may be able to sell out at that price. So, in the interests of protecting consumers, scalping is made illegal so venues can ensure that tickets are sold (in theory) at less than the market equilibrium price; if scalping were legal and the venues did charge less than the equilibrium price, a company would buy all of the tickets up immediately and resell them for however much they could get. -Dan From aleffert@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 00:15:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Akiva Dov Leffert Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Meal block seeks date So, being a freshman, I have a LOT of meal blocks. I am now looking for someone to give a block to, in exchange for accompanying me to Si Senor. This is not a left-myself-logged-in post. Qualifying factors: * Must be female * Must be a CMU undergrad student (freshman through 5th year senior is fine, though I imagine other freshman have their own meal blocks), although I might waive this requirement if you can make a really good case If you're interested, please submit by email to aleffert@cmu.edu the following items: * A recent (last 2 years) picture of yourself, or a link to same * An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words describing yourself (please do not include information I can retrieve with finger(1) - name, major, or class standing, in particular) * An essay of not less than 100 nor more than 200 words telling me why I should pick you over any other applicant If you have a personal website or webjournal, please include a link to it in your submission. Feel free to include any other information or links you wish, but make sure that the items listed above are clearly marked, and keep in mind that I may not go through such material, especially if it is voluminous. The deadline for submissions is Monday, May 12 at 11:59:59. The winner will be notified by email Tuesday, May 13 at 11:59:59. If I receive no acceptable applications by that time, my second meal block will be lost to the black hole that is dining, but I hope I don't have to do that. I reserve the right not to pick a winner even if I do receive applications. Since at least one of you is an idiot, I will point out that this is a joke. -Akiva Leffert flocci non facio From rapier@psc.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:18:22 -0400 From: Chris Rapier Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date: Revolutions A couple of, hopefully, constructive critiques. I'm not hitting on you. I'm not trying to make fun. This is from one geek to another... 1) Put some shoes on. Feet are... well, some people *really* like them but generally bare feet are situationally appropriate. Learn what those situations are. 2) Haircut - you can keep it long but it needs to be cleaned up. 3) At least trim the beard. I'd shave it entirely though as it actually detracts. You have reaosnably good facial features so you shoudln't feel like you need to hide them. 4) Pay attention to what you are wearing. Not all the time but take a few minutes to figure out what actually fits you. Those pants certainly do not. While clothes do not actually make the man they do show that you give a damn about yourself. Women respond to that sort of thing. Women also respond to confidence (no lie) but you had the balls to make these posts so it seems to me that you already have that. Some people might argue that anyone worth spending time with won't care about these mostly artifical trappings. However, these things send signals about how you view yourself and who you are. Which are things that people do and should care about. Note: My girlfriend has to constantly remind me to get haircuts, shave, wear clothes that fit and so forth. Ergo, I'm not trying to sound like I'm any better than anyone else. Kenn Brooks Hamm wrote: > So far, I have received the following: > > * One joke entry from the girlfriend of a good friend of mine > > * One email from someone who said she didn't have a submission, but was > willing for me to take her anyway > > * One attempt to enter a computer program > > * One promise for an entry (which has not yet been forthcoming) > > * 22 flames, 34 unrelated posts or posts which take no stand on the issue, > and 17 posts in support of me or of geekdom at CMU (all numbers may have > small errors) > > > > > * Two actual entries (and even if I don't receive any more, it's going to > be a very tough call) > > > > > On the off chance that anyone reading this isn't yet familiar with what > I'm doing: > > I bought two tickets to the Wednesday night showing of The Matrix: > Reloaded at Loews Theater. One is for me, and one is for my date. The > way you get to be my date is 1) by being female, and 2) by emailing me at > kenn@cmu.edu telling me why I should pick you. The deadline is 23:59:59 > today. I request that you include a recent picture (at least, if you're > not someone I already know) and a description of yourself. You can find > information about me (and a face shot) at > > , > > another picture of me at > > , > > and my webjournal at > > . > > Kenn From dtang@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:43:55 -0400 From: Donald Tang Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: RE: Matrix date: Revolutions > Note: My girlfriend has to constantly remind me to get haircuts, shave, > wear > clothes that fit and so forth. Ergo, I'm not trying to sound like I'm any > better > than anyone else. regardless, we want to see you post a pic. From mcweigel@cs.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 17:13:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Matthew Weigel Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date: Revolutions Donald Tang wrote: >> Note: My girlfriend has to constantly remind me to get haircuts, shave, >> wear >> clothes that fit and so forth. Ergo, I'm not trying to sound like I'm any >> better >> than anyone else. > >regardless, we want to see you post a pic. Go look in The Tartan's archives. -- Matthew Weigel Research Systems Programmer mcweigel+@cs.cmu.edu From rapier@psc.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 14:35:07 -0400 From: Chris Rapier Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Re: Matrix date: Revolutions These aren't the most recent ones because i actually have hair now... th' girlfriend made me give up my crewcuts... http://www.tyranny.com/me_pics/ In the past, I've done blonde: http://www.tyranny.com/newpics.html Ahh... found one that is recent: http://brendan.org/arrrrrr_meeeeeaaaaaaat_sm.jpg http://www.tyranny.com/~allison/images/4-12-03/bbq8.jpg shoudl probably get my teeth whitened. Too much coffee and smoking. If you find any from my college days I will be supremely embarassed. Donald Tang wrote: >>Note: My girlfriend has to constantly remind me to get haircuts, shave, >>wear >>clothes that fit and so forth. Ergo, I'm not trying to sound like I'm any >>better >>than anyone else. > > > regardless, we want to see you post a pic. > From jpujara@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 01:44:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Puuj Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Dating & Standards (was Re: Matrix date reloaded) I'm going to preach, in the non-religious sense. And I believe what I have to say is of value. Your mileage will vary. Please listen. Please avoid being crass. Personally, I don't see what - conceptually - is wrong with what Kenn was trying to do... There are enough rumors out there that men only focus on physical attributes or the availability of sex when pursuing women, at least Kenn was looking for something different. If I'm going to go on a date with a girl, the decision is contingent on predicted compatibility - awkward silences or nonexistant comfort levels can turn a date into a nightmare. Part of predicted compatibility is intellectual refinement. Generally you can gauge a person's intellectual refinement in the normal course of conversation, but sometimes it's not feasible to talk with the majority of the candidate pool, or doing so would be awkward. Hence, the situation wherein Kenn posts to misc.market rather than going up to random girls and trying cheesy pickup lines. No, this is not a defense or a critique of Kenn: I'm not making any remarks about Kenn's character or sanitary state or general personality - I'm analyzing the one thing I've seen directly - his actions and the corresponding significance of the opinions voiced. Ideally you physically interact with a person in reality before you ask for a date. Ideally. But reality is constantly falling short of ideals. Cope. Personally, I'm attracted to a girl who can express herself in strong, forceful words... As a kid, I spent a significant amount of time reading and maintained a couple of close penpals and as a result I can apply a healthy (or unhealthy) romanticism to the written (or typed) word. And so I heartily approve of an essay requirement. I also understand the value of the opposing request - asking Kenn to justify himself in type. A target girl has a right to make her own judgements about compatibility and intellectual refinement. The questions Kenn specifically asked for are also to my liking. Asking for a description that goes beyond the vital academic statistics people would normally quote is an excellent idea. I'm curious to see in what innovative and creative ways a person would describe themselves to a stranger; I'm interested in the aspects a person would choose as part of a concise representation of their being. The second question isn't worded as nicely, but also leaves an avenue for novel reasoning... I mainly object because explicitly justifying yourself is clumsy, better to let the content and style of the essay carry the implicit weight of your worth. Regardless, whatever the questions may be, I think an essay qualification is an acceptable metric of intellectual refinement. More criticism has come for the medium of the request - misc.market. Personally, I think that misc.market is an acceptable location for posting a date wanted message. The potency of the forum is evident from the response the original post garnered, as well as the fact that you're reading this message right now. Certainly, if you're biased towards computers finding a date with a similar interest or borderline technical fluency couldn't hurt. I understand that the female subscription might be low (although this is pure assumption and preconception - no facts support this!), which is probably the largest drawback to posting to misc.market. So maybe it's a little nerdy... I don't see this as majorly objectionable. I know enough people at enough colleges who complain about the dating situation and dating scene at their institution - men and women frustrated by the general inertia that pervades relationships. And so people don't meet members of the opposite sex (or same sex, as the case may be. Please assume politically correct interchangability in the coming paragraphs). They don't date. They don't form relationships and they don't terminate relationships. They just wait. And what does this do? What's going to happen to this army of "nerds" when they hit the Real World? Will semesters sans relationships effect the nature and success of their future emotional ties? You can bet it will... So all of a sudden you have this population of people poorly prepared for emotional relationships with members of the opposite sex, poorly prepared for the dynamics of love and loss and passion, poorly situated to understand the significance or lack thereof of their actions... I think the majority of us will actually have to make decisions(!) about our relationships - select partners, reject partners, consider getting married and having children. I'm of the opinion that in the effort to make these decisions, every last shred of information will help... So try to date, if you've a mind for it. And if it means posting to misc.market, post to misc.market. I'm not saying that you shouldn't have standards, or that you should see how much sex you can have... Standards are important, you need them, and provided they're realistic you'll be well served. But certainly be open to people and be willing to see them in their own frame of reference rather than through the little viewfinder you've become accustomed to looking through. Yesh, sex is a part of relationships and you might as well confront it, but it's important to realize that there's more to relationships to sex, and especially the fact that sitting next to someone in a movie theater is not sex while giving them a blowjob amidst week-old popcorn in isle (sic) seven is... I know some of you are fortunate enough to have significant others. Good for you, you're lucky (or unlucky, as the case may be). It's true that you don't necessarily have to resort to posting to misc.market. But in the same vein, it might be reasonable to re-evaluate your relationship in terms of the above discourse. Or maybe you're satisifed. Then this doesn't apply to you, does it? There's no need to send me nasty flames. I'm glad you've got someone, but to each his own. And there are people out there who have never had a GOOD, WORKING relationship. Not saying that they've never dated, but that they haven't had a worthwhile dating experience. I was in that boat until about a year ago... And there are people out there who are hopelessly insecure about their emotions and the possibility of being emotionally scarred on one extreme and being relegated to spinsterhood on the other extreme. Don't these people need every possible avenue to acheive emotional actualization? Certainly, you have a right to make judgements about the people who post to misc.market, but can you justify mocking and insulting someone who wants to meet a (presumably nice) girl? I'm not saying that every CMU single is desparate - I'm just commenting that life is tricky, and fuck you if you've got a problem with the way people are trying to manage and thrive. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- As for me, I'm single and have been for a few months. I will be in Pittsburgh for the majority of the summer and am (only half-seriously) accepting essay applications. Consider this my essay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- JP From jpujara@andrew.cmu.edu Tue May 13 18:57:00 2003 Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 02:55:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Puuj Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market Subject: Dating & Standards (was Re: Matrix date reloaded) I think I come off as more intelligent without a handful of spelling errors. So here's the spell-checked and roommate-reviewed version: --------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm going to preach, in the non-religious sense. And I believe what I have to say is of value. Your mileage will vary. Please listen. Please avoid being crass. Personally, I don't see what - conceptually - is wrong with what Kenn was trying to do... There are enough rumors out there that men only focus on physical attributes or the availability of sex when pursuing women, at least Kenn was looking for something different. If I'm going to go on a date with a girl, the decision is contingent on predicted compatibility - awkward silences or nonexistent comfort levels can turn a date into a nightmare. Part of predicted compatibility is intellectual refinement. Generally you can gauge a person's intellectual refinement in the normal course of conversation, but sometimes it's not feasible to talk with the majority of the candidate pool, or doing so would be awkward. Hence, the situation wherein Kenn posts to misc.market rather than going up to random girls and trying cheesy pickup lines. No, this is not a defense or a critique of Kenn: I'm not making any remarks about Kenn's character or sanitary state or general personality - I'm analyzing the one thing I've seen directly - his actions and the corresponding significance of the opinions voiced. Ideally you physically interact with a person in reality before you ask for a date. Ideally. But reality is constantly falling short of ideals. Cope. Personally, I'm attracted to a girl who can express herself in strong, forceful words... As a kid, I spent a significant amount of time reading and maintained a couple of close pen pals and as a result I can apply a healthy (or unhealthy) romanticism to the written (or typed) word. And so I heartily approve of an essay requirement. I also understand the value of the opposing request - asking Kenn to justify himself in type. A target girl has a right to make her own judgments about compatibility and intellectual refinement. The questions Kenn specifically asked for are also to my liking. Asking for a description that goes beyond the vital academic statistics people would normally quote is an excellent idea. I'm curious to see in what innovative and creative ways a person would describe themselves to a stranger; I'm interested in the aspects a person would choose as part of a concise representation of their being. The second question isn't worded as nicely, but also leaves an avenue for novel reasoning... I mainly object because explicitly justifying yourself is clumsy, better to let the content and style of the essay carry the implicit weight of your worth. Regardless, whatever the questions may be, I think an essay qualification is an acceptable metric of intellectual refinement. More criticism has come for the medium of the request - misc.market. Personally, I think that misc.market is an acceptable location for posting a date wanted message. The potency of the forum is evident from the response the original post garnered, as well as the fact that you're reading this message right now. Certainly, if you're biased towards computers finding a date with a similar interest or borderline technical fluency couldn't hurt. I understand that the female subscription might be low (although this is pure assumption and preconception - no facts support this!), which is probably the largest drawback to posting to misc.market. So maybe it's a little nerdy... I don't see this as majorly objectionable. I know enough people at enough colleges who complain about the dating situation and dating scene at their institution - men and women frustrated by the general inertia that pervades relationships. And so people don't meet members of the opposite sex (or same sex, as the case may be. Please assume politically correct interchangeability in the coming paragraphs). They don't date. They don't form relationships and they don't terminate relationships. They just wait. And what does this do? What's going to happen to this army of "nerds" when they hit the Real World? Will semesters sans relationships affect the nature and success of their future emotional ties? You can bet it will... So all of a sudden you have this population of people poorly prepared for emotional relationships with members of the opposite sex, poorly prepared for the dynamics of love and loss and passion, poorly situated to understand the significance or lack thereof of their actions... I think the majority of us will actually have to make decisions(!) about our relationships - select partners, reject partners, consider getting married and having children. I'm of the opinion that in the effort to make these decisions, every last shred of information will help... So try to date, if you've a mind for it. And if it means posting to misc.market, post to misc.market. I'm not saying that you shouldn't have standards, or that you should see how much sex you can have... Standards are important, you need them, and provided they're realistic you'll be well served. But certainly be open to people and be willing to see them in their own frame of reference rather than through the little viewfinder you've become accustomed to looking through. Yesh, sex is a part of relationships and you might as well confront it, but it's important to realize that there's more to relationships to sex, and especially the fact that sitting next to someone in a movie theater is not sex while giving them a blow-job amidst week-old popcorn in isle (sic) seven is... I know some of you are fortunate enough to have significant others. Good for you, you're lucky (or unlucky, as the case may be). It's true that you don't necessarily have to resort to posting to misc.market. But in the same vein, it might be reasonable to re-evaluate your relationship in terms of the above discourse. Or maybe you're satisfied. Then this doesn't apply to you, does it? There's no need to send me nasty flames. I'm glad you've got someone, but to each his own. And there are people out there who have never had a GOOD, WORKING relationship. Not saying that they've never dated, but that they haven't had a worthwhile dating experience. I was in that boat until about a year ago... And there are people out there who are hopelessly insecure about their emotions and the possibility of being emotionally scarred on one extreme and being relegated to spinsterhood on the other extreme. Don't these people need every possible avenue to achieve emotional actualization? Certainly, you have a right to make judgments about the people who post to misc.market, but can you justify mocking and insulting someone who wants to meet a (presumably nice) girl? I'm not saying that every CMU single is desperate - I'm just commenting that life is tricky, and fuck you if you've got a problem with the way people are trying to manage and thrive. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- As for me, I'm single and have been for a few months. I will be in Pittsburgh for the majority of the summer and am (only half-seriously) accepting essay applications. Consider this my essay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- JP